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Is Thammaron really dead?

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Sodden Hound

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Demons will either come to Gielinor through a portal, or project their forms onto something from the safety of Infernus (which is likely the case with waterfiends and gargoyles - demons projected onto constructs of water and stone). If they come to Gielinor through a portal, they are leaving Infernus and risking their lives permanently, but are theoretically more powerful since they are actually ON the planet. If they're projecting, then destroying their form is just a temporary banishment and they can reform. If I recall, Thammaron was actually ON Gielinor instead of projecting, so if he died, he's gone for good. Mods pls notice me

10-Jun-2017 19:49:58

Sodden Hound

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I think a demon turns to ashes regardless of if they're a projection or not. Born from the flames and all. That said, I don't think we see flash mobs entering through portals do we? I've never checked them out, so, if not, they're probably just spawning their projections in those locations.
And I don't think Avernics can consume to empower themselves like a Chthonian can? Obviously they can consume things, but I don't think it's nearly the same as what a Chthonian demon does, so Thammaron eating his servants wouldn't have saved him. That said, he still could have called for help.

Also, Thammaron probably came to Gielinor because he'd be much more powerful that way - their forms are less powerful if projected.
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10-Jun-2017 20:46:17 - Last edited on 10-Jun-2017 20:59:27 by Sodden Hound

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Well, we know the chthonians in game are actually here and not projections, and they still drop ashes, so I think they turn to ashes regardless of if they're projecting or not. But yea, I'm willing to bet a solid amount of the demons in game are actually there and not projections.
Regarding the golems, bear in mind they wear probably made with Saradominist enchantments and blessings, so a force of them could hold their own against a force of demons.
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11-Jun-2017 18:44:15

Sodden Hound

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It's not confirmed, no, but we know Infernus is a fiery, smokey plane, so I can't really see waterfiends forming their without turning to steam and being polluted as heck. And if I recall, all demons - not just Avernic - are born from the heart of Infernus, (obviously excluding the spawn of other demons like ripper demons) which is just some giant flame or somethin'. I don't think waterfiends and gargoyles are poppin' out of fire.
Mods haven't confirmed or denied it, but Mod Jack said it's a good idea if I recall, so they probably didn't think much about it initially XD

EDIT: Just checked, it's the Avernic book that said all demons are born from the heart of Infernus -- except the author of said book believed Avernic was the name of all of demonkind, so when he said all demons he likely just meant Avernic. So scratch that part.
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13-Jun-2017 22:05:20 - Last edited on 13-Jun-2017 22:27:17 by Sodden Hound

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Avernic book says they can construct forms, OR possess something/someone. My current thinking about waterfiend-type demons, and gargoyles, is that they're demons that possessed water elementals and statues respectively. Obviously hasn't been confirmed nor denied yet, but Mod Jack likes the idea and he's the head of demon stuff. And yea, like I said, they don't consume in the same way as chthonians, but evidently they still can consume souls as someone pointed out earlier.

EDIT: Avernic book says they possess living hosts, so the gargoyle theory is iffy, but we know statues can be animated, so -shrug-
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14-Jun-2017 04:41:36 - Last edited on 14-Jun-2017 04:48:34 by Sodden Hound

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