Basically it's just measuring the raw power levels of diving beings (those being Gods, Elder Gods, Mahjarrat and other dreams, and those given power from Gods), since Mod Osborne hasn't gotten around to it yet.
Feel free to argue and debate and I'll update in my free time, and lemme know if I left anyone out, and yea.
I'm keeping it to those who are still alive in their own right, and those that we have a general concept of (so no Lucien or Xau-Tak).
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AesirWarriorsaid: Nex and Azzanadra are way too high IMO. Otherwise it looks pretty good.in the lore corner, they said of mahjarrat power level 'That remains to be seen, but certainly not more powerful than Tier 6.'... that includes azzy and aod-nex is probably at about the same level
icthlarin can probably still take on two or three non-azzanadra mahjarrat
doubt any of the mahjarrat have power close to what lucien had (briefly)... he took down two dragonkin with relative ease, whereas icthlarin barely held off one for more than two seconds (negligible power increase between rotm and mpd as sliske didnt us the stone for power)Carn
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No way in Hades is Nex and Azzanadra stronger than Tumeken, V, or any gods really. Azzanadra is still discovering his potential but that does not mean he is up at t5 yet. He was the strongest Mahjarrat before CoM. Post-CoM, all the mahjarrat should have grown up the same proportionally in power. T6 at the least for Azzanadra. As for Nex, we can actually kill her >_>. No way she is that high up. Also, I find it hard to believe you put Moia up so high. I think all the mahjarrat outclassed her after CoM against whatever purple powers she gained in Nadir.
Swolllliosissaid: As for Nex, we can actually kill her >_>. No way she is that high up.
Empowered Nex, though? She can't be killed by the World Guardian alone (ie. hasn't been soloed yet).
I think Tier 7 is about the highest for what the World Guardian could kill alone (like the Bandos Avatar in Chosen Commander, a very weak Tier 7). Regular Nex would be about there. Nex:AOD I'd give a Tier 6 fighting-wise in terms of fighting her.
But there's a divide between story and gameplay -- between lore and PvM. Honestly, lore-wise, I think an even higher ranking would make sense. She was made in a similar way to Icthlarin and Amascut: infused with a god's essence. But a more powerful god, a more powerful start (nihil, made with elder energy, rather than a dog or a cat) and the power stones to boot? She's a force to be reckoned with.
Swolllliosissaid: Also, I find it hard to believe you put Moia up so high. I think all the mahjarrat outclassed her after CoM against whatever purple powers she gained in Nadir.
On one hand, I agree: she's not tied to the ritual and therefore not subject to the power boost that went down there. But on the other hand, it seems she's been becoming more powerful otherwise. Bilrach dialogue from Children of Mah:
Swolllliosissaid: She has never been tied to the ritual, so this will mean little to her. I have been teaching her to be so much more than Mahjarrat: to be something new. Oh yes. Hmm, Zamorak has plans for her, and those plans require her to be at Daemonheim.
I might agree with her being placed up there, but we don't really know what the above quote exactly means yet. Don't think Bilrach'd be on that tier though. He's been using that power but hasn't really taken it on for himself.
Anyway, more fun exercises for lore people. How would you rank:
- Lucien? - The Dragonkin (WGS? RotM? Now?) - Tarshak after killing V?
ZAmorakZarossaid: Where would the Tumeken before creating lesser gods go?
I'd venture a guess that it didn't affect his tier.
When Bandos created an avatar, he didn't actually drop down a tier until after Zanik smashed the pendant and effectively destroyed that part of him. That leads me to believe that it doesn't make a difference -- the aspects are still essentially part of the god, just decentralised -- unless they're destroyed.
dropped down to t6 from the Lore Corner (thx Amon). Bilrach and Junior, I still believe to be on t6 with him, just several steps down.
was dropped a level. I considered her on par with Bilrach pre-CoM (both having been trained personally by Zamorak for a short time), however I forgot that she was not present during the ritual, therefor she would clearly be lacking significant power.
: AOD PVM and Empowered Nex lorewise are entirely different, as Questcaping mentioned above. I honestly think that Nex should be ranked higher, as she is empowered with the energy of essentially 4 demi-gods, on top of what was given to her by Zaros (feel free to disagree and present an argument, and I'll drop her down to Azzy's level).
Missing: Honestly, idek where to put Vorago. Should Char be included? I feel like she is an empowered Auspah (somehow). What about the Dragonkin (either assume that they're all about the same power level OR stick with the more popular one's bc we're not about to argue about the strength of a dozen characters, when we only interact with most of them once or twice).
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