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Nerevarine x said:
[#QUDSWSOIF] said:
I'm sorry, but trying to exterminate a entire religious group is actually genocide, he was trying to rid the world of Zarosians, ergo genocide, you cannot deny, but you can defend it, which I hope you will do


I can deny it as the evidence for Saradomin exterminating Zarosians is insufficient.


But a Saradominist icyene general, thousands of years ago, who may have never existed is sufficient evidence about Zamorak and his armies?
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06-Dec-2013 13:54:13

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Nerevarine x said:
Nelfarion44 said:
But I never thought he was weeding the weak.


Well it seems he was.

At the very least, the fire he started killed people, weak or not.

This wouldn\'t be so bad if he felt remorse and learnt from his actions like Saradomin did, trying to redeem himself and realise his chaos is wrong.

But he doesn\'t, he continues to cause destruction and death, it is part of his philosophy and foolishly he believes it benefits people.


For one, it does benefit people, and I very much disagree that Saradomin is redeemed because he feels 'sorry'. Apologies don't fix things.
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10-Dec-2013 17:32:56

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Asgeir said:
Lethalintent said:
First he kills Naragi for not wanting to follow him...

Then he attacks US for not giving him a wand that doesn\\'t even belong to him?! He told me to keep the wand out of evil hands! I was doing my quest objective!

Now he tears off his own Icyenes wings because he was EMBARRASSED. then left her to DIE!

A filthy sickening hypocritical EVIL god.


Again, you have no say about anything, you follow the god with not only the highest body count, but also responsible for the highest amount of, and MOST despicable acts of cruelty and evil.

Besides, if anyone dabbles in lies and hypocrisy*****'s Zaros and his followers. Saradomin is straightforward with what he wants.

If you don\'t believe that Saradomin is benelovent and Zaros is evil, then read Nerevarine X\'s threads, they have hard facts and in-game lore with evidence that clearly proves these two points.


Tsk tsk, I would have thought that Icriulis would have taught you not to use red herrings by now. We've read Nev's threads, they don't help Saradomin's case.
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11-Dec-2013 17:20:49

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Nerevarine x said:
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Nerevarine x said:
Not sure what you mean but I explain everything in the relevant section.


Yes you say it is justified. But Saradomin asked her the question. My question is how could she have responded that would not have resulted in her wings being teared off?


Don't publicly embarrass him.

I'm very confident there would be a different response had she consulted him privately and with less hostility.


Where was hostility implied?
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12-Dec-2013 13:50:53

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Nerevarine x said:
Notice the arrogance in her sentence?

"I told him I had no intention of fighting at all."

This resonates with me as a sentence that was intentionally hostile, the addition of the word "at all" at the end, I really get an impression of an arrogant attitude when she said it in real-time.

Of course I can't confirm that and other people no doubt will say they don't see such arrogance.


........Are you serious right now? Let's assume for a second that she was blatantly arrogant and publicly humiliated Saradomin in front of his highest ranking military officials- in what way did she deserve mutilation and a death sentence?
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12-Dec-2013 13:53:47

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Nerevarine x said:
Chaos Lupus said:
Nerevarine x said:
Notice the arrogance in her sentence?

"I told him I had no intention of fighting at all."

This resonates with me as a sentence that was intentionally hostile, the addition of the word "at all" at the end, I really get an impression of an arrogant attitude when she said it in real-time.

Of course I can't confirm that and other people no doubt will say they don't see such arrogance.


........Are you serious right now? Let's assume for a second that she was blatantly arrogant and publicly humiliated Saradomin in front of his highest ranking military officials- in what way did she deserve mutilation and a death sentence?


Refer to the thread for my arguments, pages 3 and 4, posts 29-34.


I've read it. I still see absolutely no way in which a just punishment for embarrassment is ripping off someone's wings and leaving them to die. Saradomin embarrassed me when he took the wand from me in DoC- do I now have the right to cas tr ate him?
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12-Dec-2013 14:01:43 - Last edited on 12-Dec-2013 14:02:22 by Chaos Lupus

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Nerevarine x said:
Chaos Lupus said:
Nerevarine x said:
Chaos Lupus said:
Nerevarine x said:
Notice the arrogance in her sentence?

"I told him I had no intention of fighting at all."

This resonates with me as a sentence that was intentionally hostile, the addition of the word "at all" at the end, I really get an impression of an arrogant attitude when she said it in real-time.

Of course I can't confirm that and other people no doubt will say they don't see such arrogance.


........Are you serious right now? Let's assume for a second that she was blatantly arrogant and publicly humiliated Saradomin in front of his highest ranking military officials- in what way did she deserve mutilation and a death sentence?


Refer to the thread for my arguments, pages 3 and 4, posts 29-34.


I've read it. I still see absolutely no way in which a just punishment for embarrassment is ripping off someone's wings and leaving them to die. Saradomin embarrassed me when he took the wand from me in DoC- do I know have the right to cas tr ate him?


It is completely justified to me, very much so.


Good, I'll be right back, I have Saradomin's smurf ********* to cut off.
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12-Dec-2013 14:03:39

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Nerevarine x said:
What?

Don't type ridiculous comments please.


You said that it's justified to you. If Saradomin has the right to cut off someone's wings and leave them to die because they embarrassed him, then I have the right to cut off his balls because he embarrassed me in DoC.
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12-Dec-2013 14:06:14

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Nerevarine x said:
Chaos Lupus said:
Nerevarine x said:
What?

Don't type ridiculous comments please.


You said that it's justified to you. If Saradomin has the right to cut off someone's wings and leave them to die because they embarrassed him, then I have the right to cut off his balls because he embarrassed me in DoC.


Lol, you really are childish.

This discussion is over, you can be a clown on another thread since you're not here to discuss lore.


Lol, you're the one who said that it was justified. There were many other ways that Saradomin could have punished her besides mutilation and a death sentence. Saradomin wouldn't have lost **** if he hadn't done that. The majority of the icyene were willingly siding with him. This would just be interpreted as blackmail by many- 'join me or I'll kill you.' Saradomin needs some therapy for his anger issues.
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12-Dec-2013 14:22:00

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Velia said:
Chaos Lupus said:
Nerevarine x said:
What?

Don't type ridiculous comments please.


You said that it's justified to you. If Saradomin has the right to cut off someone's wings and leave them to die because they embarrassed him, then I have the right to cut off his balls because he embarrassed me in DoC.

Can I join you for the de-balling? Papa Smurf was is a jerk to me.


Be my guess, seeing as we're apparently completely within our rights.
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12-Dec-2013 14:31:32

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Nerevarine x said:
Dethal said:
Hey Nere, have you ever thought that Jagex could use your thread to see when Saradomin is balanced enough? It could explain why you keep on getting negative lore thrown at you.
They always come back to your thread like "Damn, still not bad enough. Guess we'll have to make him kill puppies or something."


Lol, I doubt it.

To be honest I find this new lore does show Saradomin is benevolent, there's just not much emphasis on it. Bringing wealth and knowledge to New Domina is a pretty amazing achievement and benefits the whole Icyene race there.

Garlandia doesn't even tell us about it, she just makes a passing comment and then criticises Saradomin for removing her wings.

And most people so far are ignoring that Saradomin brought wealth and knowledge to New Domina and focus on Garlandia's wings being removed...it's silly lol.

He did seek recruits for his army but many willingly joined. As for the ones who did not, we don't know what happened to them (Garlandia is an example but then again she did publicly embarrass him, something most Icyene who refused to join probably wouldn't do.)


That's a nice ultimatum. 'Fight against gods, ourgs, ogres, werewolves, mages, rangers, vampyres, and demons or I'll permanently handicap you, shame you in front of your community, and leave you to die.'
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13-Dec-2013 15:17:33

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Anenemus said:
Cybernet377 said:
Kree's forces had the Godsword in the Eyrie. It should have been obvious that Zil would have to attack them.

In related news, Kree and Zil were Allies before her attack, and formed a truce afterwards. Technically, Kree broke the truce first, but can hardly be blamed for it, seeing as he was forced into it by Zil using the Murmer.

Zilyana still purposely destroyed an alliance between two gods who at the time could get along perfectly fine because she was tired of protecting the Allies that her job was to protect.

Saradomin and Armadyl probably would have won the Godwars if Saradomin had just let Zilyana die at Annakarl and replaced her with Padomenes, who judging from his character model would have been just a century or two younger than her.


I can agree with that. Padomenes would make a MUCH better commander than that pathetic winged headache who almost no one seems to love.


I'm pretty sure that Zilyana's own mother hated her....
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18-Dec-2013 18:39:56

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Vardan said:
Anenemus said:
I have a question.
What did Saradomin mean by "I will stand as the One True God!"?

Saradomin never actually said that what he actually said was "Only I can rule as the true god!" people on the forums like to twist things he says to make him sound worse. What he meant by that statement was because he's the only "true" god (he's the only one proactively trying to protect his followers in his eyes) he's the only one who deserves to rule.


That misquote was barely any different from the real one.
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23-Dec-2013 15:47:45

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Velia said:
Cybernet377 said:
I'd certainly be happier joining up in the world events if the recruiter was a cute girl in a cute dress instead of an ugly fat man.
I've always wondered why the recruiters are all fat, balding (or helmet wearing), identical looking men. Perhaps they're all from the same family? Must make get-togethers interesting.


It's the Officer Jenny/Nurse Joy paradox.
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08-Jan-2014 15:12:36

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@ Ancient

It's not canon, as it's only been mentioned in J Mod quotes, but Skargaroth was apparently seeking out any god he could find and killing them. In his mind, he was freeing mortals from the tyranny of the gods. So sooner or later, he would likely have gone after Saradomin.
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30-Apr-2014 22:59:51

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