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Sepulchre
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Okay, so I know we literally just got River of Blood yesterday, but I'm ready for the next quest already! I got Invention to 99 (Worst. Skill. Ever.) and now I'm back in lore mode.

SO, with that being said.. Ballad of the Barrows Brothers! What do we know? What do we hope to find out? What do we want to see.. what don't we want to see? I'd love to know what everyone thinks of this. Are we happy about this, or are there problems we have with it?

Discuss!
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26-Apr-2016 06:19:18

Ancient Drew
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Congrats on 99 invention! :)

From what I hear, Ballad of the Barrows Brothers has us looking for a way to weaken the grip Sliske has on their souls. There is also apparently a Barrows Sister, who it has been implied doesn't want to be freed from Sliske.

Personally, I want to free every single wight he has. I'll take away all his toys whilst letting their souls head to their afterlives, then tie him up and leave him with Seren while I continue Elder God business with Zaros.
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26-Apr-2016 15:58:53

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I hear it's a sort of narration by Sliske, or something.

Someone I know went to the screening of the RS documentary and got to probe Osborne about it and that's all he revealed.

Could be a lie, could have changed since then. Who knows?
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26-Apr-2016 16:20:57

Megical Man

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I really hope that we don't find a way to weaken Sliske. Like, at least not in that sense.

2016 so far has painted Sliske as more of a jack rabbit than any other time, at least imo. Even when he one-shotted Guthix, he was basically doing that for Zaros (and yes, his own benefit too).

But so far in 2016, some of the more major events have him as:
-Throwing down a giant spear score board into a populated area (Grand exchange)
-A power hungry creature (The Heart)
-A demented madman who converted children into wights and named cows after you (Easter 2016)

and most recently,

-Converting Janus to rip open portals to the Shadow Realm.


It just seems like they are all of a sudden trying to slap an evil coat of paint onto a character who, in the beginning, didn't seem all that evil.

26-Apr-2016 19:31:15

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Well ...
We already know most of the history of the Barrows Brothers.
We know what Sliske had them guard for ages. (temple at Sennisten)
We know that Sliske has done some rather warped experiments on them, creating the RotS
We know some of what they can do in combat (Ritual of the Mahj)

I'm wondering if we get to:
Learn the real reason why the accept Sliske's offer in the first place.
Despite everything Sliske has done to them, do they retain any of their old personalities? has modifying them actually caused Sliske to lose a notch or 2 of his control over them?
Could the Shadow Infused Barrow Bros be getting setup to be the downfall and eternal jailers of Sliske? (keep him locked up for a 1000 years or so, making him miss a ritual. Or keep him secured until the next Ritual.)

26-Apr-2016 20:36:15

Sepulchre
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My main hope for the quest is to learn more about a few things:
1.) Why the Brothers? Did Sliske see potential in them? Was there something special about them?
2.) Why didn't Sliske wait until after they completed the Morytania Campaign to weaken them? Did he think they would lose? Was there a higher purpose in allowing the Vyres to win?
3.) What exactly did Sliske do to power them up so much that Rise of the Six is arguably the hardest fight in the game? Was it knowledge from the Catalyst that allowed him to do so?
4.) What is this about a Sister? Maybe another sibling who fell for Sliske, and sold her brothers to him?
5.) Is there anything we can do to free the Brothers, or at least weaken his control?
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World Guardian
must learn to find
Balance
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Only then can they
Control
themselves and forge their own
Fate.

26-Apr-2016 20:58:15

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Megical Man said:
I really hope that we don't find a way to weaken Sliske. Like, at least not in that sense.

2016 so far has painted Sliske as more of a jack rabbit than any other time, at least imo. Even when he one-shotted Guthix, he was basically doing that for Zaros (and yes, his own benefit too).

But so far in 2016, some of the more major events have him as:
-Throwing down a giant spear score board into a populated area (Grand exchange)
-A power hungry creature (The Heart)
-A demented madman who converted children into wights and named cows after you (Easter 2016)

and most recently,

-Converting Janus to rip open portals to the Shadow Realm.


It just seems like they are all of a sudden trying to slap an evil coat of paint onto a character who, in the beginning, didn't seem all that evil.



I don't think so.

He was being a prankster with the sword, yes sword not spear, and destroyed a fountain. If he wanted to be evil he could have made a much larger one and destroyed an entire city.

The turned Greg into what the man already was. He didn't make him evil. Greg asked for help because he was dying so Sliske granted him his wish and made him a monster. Something the man already was before he met Sliske.

Easter, again he is just being a prankster. There is no real harm in anything he did. If you wanted to joke around with someone, you would call a pig or cow the name of the person you don't like or joking around with. And I don't recall there being any proof that he changed children into those small barrows brothers.

Again, Janus is asking his own choices. He was already a mad man as it was, Sliske just put a mask on him.

They aren't making him evil, they are just making him a prankster which is exactly what he is.



I mainly just want to find out if the Barrows brothers had a choice in the matter of becoming Sliske's fighters. Not much else I really care for.
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26-Apr-2016 21:20:50 - Last edited on 26-Apr-2016 21:21:59 by Iceey

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Sepulchre said:
2.) Why didn't Sliske wait until after they completed the Morytania Campaign to weaken them? Did he think they would lose? Was there a higher purpose in allowing the Vyres to win?
3.) What exactly did Sliske do to power them up so much that Rise of the Six is arguably the hardest fight in the game? Was it knowledge from the Catalyst that allowed him to do so?


I can't really answer the other bits, but I have some input on these.

2) In The Lord of Vampyrium, you can discover a land writ that bequeathed some land to Sliske, but fails to mention what Drakan got in return. Considering Sliske's original goal was likely to hide the artefact from Senntisten (the one we recover during The Temple at Senntisten), it's almost certainly the case that what Drakan received was an end to the brothers' campaign.

In other words, Sliske powered up the brothers so that he'd have guards for the artefact, and weakened them in exchange for a place to hide it. As an added bonus, the vampyre controlled country would act as yet another barrier to people seeking the artefact (the Vampyres generally don't like outsiders, and are bound by the agreement Drakan made to not mess with the Barrows).

3) While we don't know what he did, the fact that we found the stone right next to the Barrows in Dishonor Among Theives and his insistence that he's only claimed knowledge from the Stone would indicate that it was that knowledge that enabled him to empower them.

26-Apr-2016 21:59:14

Megical Man

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Iceey said:

I don't think so.

He was being a prankster with the sword, yes sword not spear, and destroyed a fountain. If he wanted to be evil he could have made a much larger one and destroyed an entire city.


Oh, pardon me for mistaking a sword for a spear. Like that devalues my point at all. Yes, he could have made a larger one. But think in-game. Where is one of the most populated places around? Varrock's Grand Exchange. Surely he injured some during this stunt. When he could have easily done this somewhere less populated.


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The turned Greg into what the man already was. He didn't make him evil. Greg asked for help because he was dying so Sliske granted him his wish and made him a monster. Something the man already was before he met Sliske.

I don't think I mentioned anything about Gregovic, did I? No? Okay. I was talking about how he threw his hat into the bidding for yet another power source.

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Easter, again he is just being a prankster. There is no real harm in anything he did. If you wanted to joke around with someone, you would call a pig or cow the name of the person you don't like or joking around with. And I don't recall there being any proof that he changed children into those small barrows brothers.


Clearly, I was joking about the cow comment. And no proof? The entire final puzzle of the event was you trying to turn the children back into humans before the Wight effect completely took over. If the player didn't intervene, he would have started to mass ship Wight Chocolate.

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They aren't making him evil, they are just making him a prankster which is exactly what he is.


You're wrong, I'm sorry but you are. Anybody can see they are fluffing up his evilness to make the average player dislike him even more.

27-Apr-2016 05:18:04

Hguoh
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Megical Man said:
Clearly, I was joking about the cow comment. And no proof? The entire final puzzle of the event was you trying to turn the children back into humans before the Wight effect completely took over. If the player didn't intervene, he would have started to mass ship Wight Chocolate.


The fact that Sliske had named his cow after us specifically to have a jab at us indicates that he at the very least suspected that we would come.

As much as I know that Sliske is a pretty bad guy, I actually have my doubts about him mass shipping the wight chocolate had we not stopped him. If we hadn't shown up, I honestly feel like he would just have tested the chocolate, moved along, and been disappointed that we hadn't gotten involved.

He's not making his worldwide move until the eclipse and his endgame. Threatening to ship out the wight chocolate just feels like him messing with us.

27-Apr-2016 05:47:12 - Last edited on 27-Apr-2016 05:49:35 by Hguoh

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