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A Mighty

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Tauwaru said:
Why do all the Bandosians need to be 'Warlike'
Sure, Bandos was the War God but his followers only adapted that during his dominance.

Bandosians have potential to be Pacifistic Warrior cultures, they clearly have a sense of honor, letting Graardor live due to his race's extinction.

So why not? If goblins can do it, maybe even Orks, Trolls, and even Ogres can give up warlike tendencies and fight only when needed, like the Armadyleans, they would certainly be liked more...

(I know this is a crackpot suggestion but why tf not?)


"Pacifistic warrior" is an oxymoron. Bandos is the Big High War God. What you're describing is the Armadylean faction, and it is impossible for one to be both Armadylean and Bandosian. There have been himts that Armadyl may try to convert some of the Bandosians, which I would like to see. But for that to happen they need to stop being Bandosian.
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25-Aug-2016 17:47:36

Ancient Drew

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For a pacifistic warrior to come to being, they must have been brought up in a fighting culture then grew to be sick of it. Which is why I believe that Armadyl and his followers are the closest to this definition; they can fight pretty good, but won't fight unless they have absolutely no other option. Prepare for hell on RuneScape in Naval Cataclysm!

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25-Aug-2016 20:30:39

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Ancient Drew said:
For a pacifistic warrior to come to being, they must have been brought up in a fighting culture then grew to be sick of it. Which is why I believe that Armadyl and his followers are the closest to this definition; they can fight pretty good, but won't fight unless they have absolutely no other option.
It could be a warrior culture that simply doesn't believe in attacking first. Then and only then do they use them to mop the floor using their superior warrior selves.
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25-Aug-2016 20:33:21 - Last edited on 25-Aug-2016 20:39:34 by Solanumtinkr

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Ancient Drew said:
The only instances where Bandosians have been 'pacifistic' is where the goblins, ogres and trolls made settlements for themselves. This happened after Bandos was banished after the God Wars. They still had their civil wars but eventually they stopped and made civilisations. Henceforth the likes of the Goblin Village, Gu'Tanoth, Oo'glog and Trollheim were born. They may not have been the most peaceable or educated of races, but culture was starting to bloom without Bandos.


Actually, Bandos was responsible for ending the Goblin Civil War.

This is recorded at the end of the Bandos Memory book (post quest reward from the Mighty Fall) and during the Hopespear's Will Miniquest.

To summarize the events:

The Edicts get put up. The goblins fought for and against many of the other races on Gielinor. Eventually, the other races built up cities, the walls of which prevented the goblins from attacking and raiding those races any more. As a result, the goblins started running out of food, leading tribes with little food to attack those with more.

This eventually culminated in the Battle of the Plain of Mud, where Bandos managed to establish contact with Hopespear. It was at this point that Bandos told Hopespear that the infighting amongst the goblins must stop and crafted the Chosen Commander prophecy. When Hopespear brought news of his vision to the leaders of the tribe, the news (and the fact that so many goblins had died that there was now enough food to go around) the battle was ended and a Temple to Bandos was built (which promptly sank into the ground).

And I wouldn't describe the Trolls as very peaceful even during the Edicts considering they regularly attack Burthorpe.

25-Aug-2016 21:03:55 - Last edited on 25-Aug-2016 21:14:02 by Hguoh

Lego Miester

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Tauwaru said:


(I know this is a crackpot suggestion but why tf not?)


I wouldn't go that far, but they seem to recognize that the player can still view themselves as bandosian while compromising with his ruthless nature to still be a somewhat heroic character.

Player: Zanik, you know that I had to do that to uphold the ideals of Bandos.

Zanik: You're insane! Bandos is dead! How can you think that justifies killing me and subjecting me to this?

Player: Yes, he is dead, but his message remains. It echoed loud and clear when Armadyl took up his mace. The strong rule and the weak fall. If I am insane it is because, rather than use my strengths for myself all the time, I use it to shield the weak. You know what, Zanik, I am sick of people telling me I am insane to follow Bandos. Bandos represented strength. The strength I gained following his ideal helped me save your people. The strength I gained from following him helped me save the world more than once. Maybe in doing so I am trying to justify the mountain of bodies I have climbed to get this strong. Maybe I do it because it pits me against stronger foes. Who knows? All I know is that I am sick to my back teeth of hearing that being Bandosian is terrible from someone whose entire race would be rotting in their graves if I hadn't chosen to use my strength to protect them.

Zanik: You're a monster! Bandos represents tyranny, murder, the slaughter of innocents! I saw exactly what he stood for, not this idealized nonsense you are spouting. And! You! Killed! Me!

-----------by the end of the quest, as you're leaving. Man this took a lot of digging to find-----

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26-Aug-2016 22:19:43 - Last edited on 26-Aug-2016 22:40:08 by Lego Miester

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