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The TokHaar are made from Obsidian, and created by Ful by making use of the Elder Kiln. They are not made of black stone, and have nothing to do with Xau-Tak.

On the other hand, the cosmic cats seemingly do have a connection, and this means that Xau-Tak has been with us the entire pirate series, as in some quests we see cutscenes that are meant to 'censor' some parts of the quest, and instead play a scene of kittens playing, meaning Xau-Tak was there too, if he had the link to the cats in the pirate series.

But the TokHaar are completely unrelated.

19-Mar-2018 20:00:22

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Roake Kal is pretty much at this point, (i believe) meant to be Dragonkin Language, it IS a Dragonkin temple at the end of the quest. The fact that the word 'Kal' appears in several languages is most likely a coincidence.

If Xau-Tak has any connection to the TokHaar, then it may be that the TokHaar existed in the last rendition of the universe, and Xau-Tak was maybe part of Mah? Otherwise it makes zero sense for them to be related.

19-Mar-2018 20:03:16

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Jakir said:
Devil Vein said:
Xau could be an elder and therefore unaffected by the edicts. Also, I dont think the kittens are cosmic guardians im pretty sure their avatars of Xau-Tak. Or at least how we perceive Xau since we cant comprehend him. Getting close to the portal at the end causes all kinds of strange things to happen to our mind.


Xau definitely isn't an elder or else he could just shatter the edicts/ignore them. Also the cats are guardians of the Underworld. If they were Xau they would be more malicious.

Ahtelhrax said:
The TokHaar are made from Obsidian, and created by Ful by making use of the Elder Kiln. They are not made of black stone, and have nothing to do with Xau-Tak.

On the other hand, the cosmic cats seemingly do have a connection, and this means that Xau-Tak has been with us the entire pirate series, as in some quests we see cutscenes that are meant to 'censor' some parts of the quest, and instead play a scene of kittens playing, meaning Xau-Tak was there too, if he had the link to the cats in the pirate series.

But the TokHaar are completely unrelated.


What do you think Obsidian is? Spoilers: It's black stone.



Obsidian is glass.

Volcanic. Glass.

Do research before attempting to correct me maybe?
And as far as we know, using obsidian on dead things doesn't raise em back up, unlike the Black Stone of Mos Le' Harmless, therefore it can be settled that Xau-Tak is NOT using obsidian.

20-Mar-2018 07:44:48 - Last edited on 20-Mar-2018 07:46:09 by Ahtelhrax

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It's also possible that Xau-tak is just NOT a normal god, whether that means that he is an Elder or something else, as no other god as of yet has managed to make people insane, although pieces of hate is a 5th age quest, so maybe in the 6th age he can't make us insane.

Or his tier could be like Tier 1.556979321 or something similar so that he is less powerful than an Elder, but more so than Guthix.

Of course this would mean that Guthix was not powerful enough to banish him, but realised that the Dragonkin had an adequately well protected fortress around Xau-tak's main entry point into gielinor.

20-Mar-2018 18:14:32 - Last edited on 20-Mar-2018 18:22:14 by Ahtelhrax

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Wahisietel said:
Previous content seems to imply Xau-Tak's hands are/were present in places other than the weird rift portal thingy, and acting pretty much the same before, during and after the edicts being a thing. Judging by the nightmare in The Light Within, there's probably more in the nearby sunken mwanu/horror city.

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Clatterclatter click clatter clack click clatter clatter click... (You know, this place is too dry, but at least I don't have to worry about giant stone hands.)


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You struggle, but your limbs won't move. Is it because of the pressure of the water, or could it be the myriad black, stone hands that have emerged from the buildings and are gripping you? In either case, you jerk awake with a gasp. It was all a dream! A terrible, terrible dream


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When I asked him how Gustaf had lost his legs he simply replied 'they wouldn't let go'. When I asked what damaged the ship he claimed 'claws' and he would say no more.


Also no, Xau-Tak has already been confirmed to not be an elder god. And is very unlikely to be a TokHaar.


Where was it confirmed? May i ask?

20-Mar-2018 21:47:11

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Ashlin107 said:
Armodilo said:
Could the chest contain the elder horn? I don't know how the timings work out, was wondering if jack could have survived the first time using it and also for controlling the sea monster he sunk our boat with.


Unlikely considering at the time of the quest (the 5th age) Quinn was the one in possession of The Horn. Quinn doesn't lose the horn until the 6th age when she's assassinated. We still don't know about where it is exactly whether or not it fell in the sea or Quinn stashed it somewhere before her death.

It's more likely the Jack was using the black stone to control the Crassian king that we fought during the quest. That or the Crassians worship Xau-Tak and since Jack was his agent.

As for how Jack survived well presumably he ended up making his way into the underwater temple and made some kind of deal with Xau-Tak.


I'm willing to bet that the chest Jack jumped with is the same one the Gustaf Joannhes encountered, and the one that Madame Shih carried. It makes sense that jack would have it, being Xau-Tak's agent, and Madame Shih looking sick/possessed makes sense due to Xau-Tak's mental screwery, and if it was the same chest Gustaf had, then it drives people insane and allegedly has legs.

" I pressed him on what happened to this artefact, and Lygrass told me it has crawled overboard when not watched."-Death At Sea

It also apparently killed four sailors on the Glory of Zaros

" Lygrass shook as if with chill and told me that the thing Gustav brought on board killed them."
" it had 'sung' to the crew at night, and that the four men had 'become absent' and had to be killed."

24-Mar-2018 12:53:54 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2018 12:54:29 by Ahtelhrax

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