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Megical†Man

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This may have been answered already, but what Rock is Drakan talking about during the quest? Specifically,

Vanescula: "Vampyrium? So that is where you have been gone all these years? We thought you secluded in your quarters, obsessing over that 'rock'."

Drakan: "Do I seem a moody vyreling to you, sulking in my room? No, that 'rock' showed me the way - its loss merely delayed my plans."

To me, that sounds like the Stone of Jas, but I may have forgotten something from the previous quests that this is a reference to. And I mean, the dialogue does seem like how other users felt around the Stone (obsessed, enlightened).

So, thoughts? Did I miss something?


(I did a little digging around and came up with a timeline/theory on page 2!)

14-Apr-2016 17:00:39 - Last edited on 16-Apr-2016 04:40:06 by Megical†Man

Midwyn

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I've been thinking about this as well. Maybe we both missed something from the previous quests but it could be a reference to the Stone of Jas. I think I read somewhere that the stone was located in Morytania for some time. Not sure if that's true or when and where it could have been. Though his strength didn't seem very god-like... so maybe he never was in actual possession of it himself.
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14-Apr-2016 17:21:12

Megical†Man

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Interestingly enough (I'm still playing through the quest), maybe I just found another little lore question that would give an interesting answer.

In the library in Castle Drakan, when you pull a book at random, you get this,

"A land write, signed by Drakan. It seems that Drakan and Sliske reached an agreement that the Barrows could be used by the *ahjarrat. There is no mention of what Drakan got in return."

I'm curious what Drakan got in return?

14-Apr-2016 17:35:39

Midwyn

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Megical†Man said:
"A land write, signed by Drakan. It seems that Drakan and Sliske reached an agreement that the Barrows could be used by the *ahjarrat. There is no mention of what Drakan got in return."
Ooh, I completely missed that part. So... this was probably before the Barrows brothers came along. But Sliske didn't have the Stone back then, did he? Maybe he just "promised" to give it to Drakan.
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14-Apr-2016 17:42:49

Hguoh
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Movario, who was seeking the stone of Jas mentions investigating Morytania in his notes.

An imp responded in a Postbag from the Hedge that they tend to avoid Morytania because it smells like dragon poop, but points out that there are no dragons in Morytania (hinting that the kin were there at some point).

There's a replica stone of Jas in one of the rooms in Castle Drakan (Vampyrium side).

As for the land write, think about what the land was used for. Chances are, Sliske set up the brothers to crusade into Morytania, struck a deal with Drakan to secure a spot for his soon to be wights and the treasure they'd protect, and all he likely had to do was let the brothers die.

14-Apr-2016 19:49:35

Kemtros
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One of the possible locations for the Stone after Ritual of the Mahjarrat is in Morytania, but I don't think that's an influence here. It might be a neat thing to reference later down the line, but not here. There's always been speculation that he might have been obsessed with the Daeyalt ore, but I'm more inclined to think it was the Stone of Jas, unless the two are connected. The unofficial wiki says the the Stone created daeyalt, but I'm not sure if that's confirmed.

14-Apr-2016 20:15:29

Sepulchre
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Midwyn said:
I think I read somewhere that the stone was located in Morytania for some time. Not sure if that's true or when and where it could have been.


Firstly, yes. According to Movario's notes, the Stone was most likely residing in modern-day Morytania for some time, presumably during the 3rd age when Zamorak had it, as Morytania was, even then a base for his operations.

As for what the Rock is, I would say the Stone of Jas is a good bet. Though aside from trying to keep it a mystery for the Player, I see zero reason for Drakan to refer to it as 'the Rock' (Can ya smell what it's cookin'?) rather than 'the Stone' like LITERALLY everyone else does. Also, unless Drakan has been living under a rock, I'm sure he'd have known before his death that the Stone had been found by Lucien, and make more attempts at getting it.

My belief isn't so much that 'the Rock' refers to the Catalyst as much as my belief is: "I can't think of anything else so important that would be called a rock." Although, during Lord of Vampyrium, Drakan says 'its loss merely delayed my plans.' implying that he lost it. As far as we know, Drakan himself never posessed the Stone of Jas. I wouldn't be surprised if this 'Rock' is something we don't even know of yet. I'm sure with the Finale, we'll all find out.
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15-Apr-2016 08:39:21

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Its not confirmed as the Stone of Jas but heavily implied, especially with the mini version in his bedroom. I also remember a theory that the Stone created Dayealt ore. Hopefully both will be expanded on. Wake me up when Osborne resigns | Will not be renewing membership until Jagex deals with its toxic developer culture & has a new, better lead designer | *Soon TMĒ is not a fun joke, it is an admission the company is an embarrassment

15-Apr-2016 12:09:24

Voya
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From Lore stream, 8.11.2012:
"13. Will Daeyalt Ore (from the Myreque series) ever be dealt with? I was wondering if Daeyalt ore will still be a part of future Myreque quests.

Dave: The Daeyalt ore if you donít know, is created from the stone of Jas where it was previously. So, just like it created fist of guthix, tears of guthix where itís previously been, itís magical essence that is left behind the stone of Jas. I talked to the developer recently and she sees it more like a spin-off of the story. Thereís so many different strands we want to do with the Myreque storyline and Daeyalt ore is just one of those things weíd probably do in a spin-off. Iím much more interested in Haemalchemy, what Drakan is up to, Darkmeyer, thatís really the kind of the Morytania strands we want to do in the core storyline. "
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15-Apr-2016 16:29:18

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