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AesirWarrior

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A Mighty said:
As powerful as a T7 god.

We're a T7 god in all but name, as Jagex doesn't want the term "god" to be associated with our character. But it has been confirmed that the power Guthix gave us in TWW made us immortal (in the RS sense; we can't die of old age but we can die in battle). So I'd say T7 gods are a fair comparison.


T7 are not gods. They are on the scale, but that does not make them gods.

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Tier 7 is a kind of 'Honorary Mention' tier, with beings who are reflections of gods or fractions of gods. To give you an idea, the Bandos Avatar, the Avatars of Creation and Destruction, and Scabaras/Het/Crondis/Apmeken are here, among others.


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We could qualify as T7 as we have been imbued with part of Guthix's essence, but we are not gods. T7 doesn't really have a defined "power level" either as far as we know, a spoonful of divine energy would likely make something T7. It fits the definition.

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I'd also prefer if we didn't fill this thread (or the lore forums at all) with argument of how "we're as strong as the plot demans", "we have plot armour", "depends on the writer" or other Doylist arguments. The lore forum should IMO strive to use an in-universe perspective as much as possible.

For example:

- Guthix died because he believed blah blah gods blah blah wanted to die etc.

not

- Guthix died because the plot demanded it.

There's nothing wrong with the second explanation of course, it is correct, but if we only offered explanations external to Runescape's story then... this forum wouldn't exist.

That does not mean we can't break the 4th wall or anything, this isn't some roleplaying nonsense. I just think that we should remember that in the context of this forum a Watsonian perspective is preferrable to a Doylist one. The latter has its place of course, but it should be avoided when possible.
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I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?
- We call it being a hero.

02-Aug-2017 00:50:17 - Last edited on 02-Aug-2017 00:50:29 by AesirWarrior

AesirWarrior

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Hazeel said:
Something I just noticed...if you try to protect Seren and challenge Zamorak, he points out that he's no longer a God, that the WG powers wouldn't protect them from a Mahjarrat, and basically threatens to kick our ass if we stand in his way.

This heavily re-enforces my belief that the WG powers makes us more than capable of beating the Gods in their divine state.


What? I'm not sure I understand. How are you drawing *that* conclusion? All this confirms is that as a god he can't harm us, which we've always known. We have the power to defend against god-magic, but that doesn't mean we have the power to actually beat them. Defensive powers =/= Offensive powers. If Captain America shield blocks Thor's hammer does that make him capable of beating him in a fight? No.

If we were somehow capable of beating a god, I think that'd violate Guthix's message in TWW.

Someone with the power to defend against the gods, but not the power to be one


Now if we were powerful enough to beat the gods in single combat then we'd have the power to be one, surely? We'd have to be pretty close to them in power. Yes, we don't have divine energy but that really doesn't matter. Guthix didn't want us to have the power to be a god, doesn't matter if we're technically not "ascended". If we're as powerful as the gods then we have the power to be a god.
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I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?
- We call it being a hero.

03-Aug-2017 02:43:45

AesirWarrior

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Iceey said:
We are at least as powerful as a T7 God, there is no doubt about that. We were able to withstand and kill the Dark Lord and Bandos' Avatar which were both the equivalent of a T7. We are also able to stand toe to toe with most Mahjarrat which all have the power of a T7 God.

Arrav and Robert the strong were both able to go up against a Mahjarrat or kill a Dragonkin and Xenia said we were at least as powerful as them. We also were able to withstand the onslaught of an extremely powerful Dragonkin.


We ourselves probably could kill a god with the right stuff. I mean Guthix killed Skagoroth in one shot with the Elder Sword.

Azzandra also says he wasn't sure if we could even still be considered a human and that we were something far greater.

If I had to guess, we probably have at least the power of a T6 or T5 since Sliske is probably now within us.


Well, we had to use a Deus Ex Machina crossbow to defeat the Bandos avatar, the Dragonkin could one shot us if it weren't for the protective charm, and the Dark Lord was destroyed by the light (and even then remained as a crystal).
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I have noticed your kind does tend to blindly stumble forward towards danger simply because it exists. What is your word for that?
- We call it being a hero.

05-Aug-2017 21:29:08

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