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Deltaslug

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Been noticing something for quite a while now in the Wilderness. (though I am aware this is nothing new).

Piracy/pking is a poor way to make money. Especially when you consider this against the players who kill bots for the Cursed Energy drops.

Let me break this down to you:

- bots are a problem. you can't stop them. you can't stem the tide of them. and no matter how often you kill them, they'll just run back to the same spot. making a constant stream of resource gathering.

- at ~ 100 cursed energy collected, bots run to whatever bank they've been programmed to run to.

- bot killers don't need to risk much. effectively using the "1-item" method because bots are often much weaker, and they won't fight back. the only 'risk' is when you have a collection of cursed energy in your inventory, even then, bot hunters know to bank often as well.

- pkers tend to only attack bot killers because they too are "weak prey"

- the pker has no idea how long the bot killer has been there. the bot killer may have been active for hours or arrived 2 minutes prior.

- when the pker attacks the bot killer, they interrupt the money making method because the bots keep chugging along, now completely unhindered as the pker is attacking the bot killer.

- pkers often hop worlds looking for bot hunters. thus time is spent/wasted looking for a target ... yet there are often worlds with 5+ bots farming cursed energy that they leave completely alone.

24-May-2019 20:05:56

Deltaslug

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So what am I getting at?

Pkers should instead focus on the bots and not the bot killers.

By spending time and resources attacking a player in hopes they have 1k energy drop, the pker completely misses out on even more money by taking the same amount of time to kill bots.

In addition, the pkers run the added risk of losing all their stuff, further adding to the risk that they incur, on top of wasted time (another resource that does have a legitimate cost to you.)

So to those few "pkers" of the world roaming the Wilderness, my advice to you, that to make money in the modern economy ... don't resort to piracy. Get a legitimate line of work, and kill bots. You'll make far more in the long run.

AND, you'll be hurting our true enemy of the world ... the sweatshop gold farmers of the world.

Do it for your own bank. Do it for economy. Do it to stop the real monsters of the world.

24-May-2019 20:06:08

NexOrigin

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If the bot killers are making money from killing the bots, then logically it would stand to reason that the bot killer killers are making money from killing the bot killers killing the bots.

24-May-2019 21:08:29

Thunder Jinx
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Just ban the people who purchase gold from the bots and you will deal a significant blow to the bots and when there's nobody left who would buy their gold they cannot make money from it and will disappear.

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24-May-2019 23:28:32

Fire Hawk154

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It's not about making money, it's about sending a message. The Wilderness shouldn't be a safe place for PKers either. However, personally I won't attack other PKers as they're generally kind people. If they attack me I'll just tank to safety as I find EoC PvP disgusting and wouldn't avtively engage in it unless being paid.
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24-May-2019 23:29:15

Transcendent
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When I killed some bots, someone who owns the bots came along to try and stop me, and sometimes they will even admit they own the bots. I didn't bother to report because it seems pointless, they would just make another account to protect their bots again.

My point is, the people attacking you for killing the bots probably own the bots, so they make more protecting their bots than they would killing their own bots. That is why they attack you for killing the bots, because it is their bots.
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25-May-2019 01:02:12 - Last edited on 25-May-2019 01:10:27 by Transcendent

Transcendent
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If Jagex wants to see who owns a bot farm, just attack the bots and see who comes to defend them. But since they are probably hiding behind a VPN it would be hard to find out who they are IRL, not impossible, but it would take some work.

If you are a player and want to stop the bots, its probably more effective to report the accounts defending the bots than to report all the bots individually. It would be nice if there was a report option for reporting bot farm owners/defenders so Jagex knew why they were being reported, otherwise Jagex might miss the reason why the account is being reported. I guess you could send the report to tipoff@jagex.com with the explanation you suspect the account defending the bots is the bot farm owner.
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25-May-2019 01:35:03 - Last edited on 25-May-2019 01:39:15 by Transcendent

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