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Whatusaytome

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As you can see in the linked thread, there are 146 colors usable in these forums.

My suggestion is a store, possibly owned by Party Pete, comprised of Partyhats made in every single color, minus the 6 Rares that already exist. 140 brand new Partyhats!


Important details:

These Partyhats are Nontradeable. They are not Rares, like the existing hats. The Existing hats will be as rare as ever.

My suggestion for pricing is based off the cheapest of the rares being just over 7b.
To have the price intervals between each Hat be 50m.

1st and cheapest Partyhat is 50m- 2nd costs 100m.. -150m-200m-250m... etc.. until the final and newest partyhat costs 7b.
140 x 50,000,000 = 7,000,000,000

(I originally thought 5m was the gap needed to end on 7b, but that is for 700m... and I want this gap more than I want 50m, but I dont want people to say no support because of the prices. Comment if you'd support 5m-700m, or 50m-7b)

They are great for showing off with.. or partying with! The range of prices is a great show of your wealth status, and the great range of colors almost guarantees attractive colors for both the lower and higher end prices!

Each Partyhat is Completely Refundable! giving any interested person the option to use them to store wealth indefinitely, or as the title implies, use them as Stepping Stones towards saving for one of the Tradable Rares, or anything else!

Cosmetic Overrides should be given for each hat a person owns, so a person never has to risk their hat to wear it wherever they choose, without the need for any keepsake keys. Overrides will disappear when you return the hat.

I would be fine with a minor graphical difference to these over the original partyhat design, as these are new items.

If you dont support, can you leave an explanation why?
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18-May-2019 16:56:07 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2019 23:31:59 by Whatusaytome

Draco Burnz
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Whatusaytome said:


Cosmetic Overrides should be given for each hat a person owns, so a person never has to risk their hat to wear it wherever they choose, without the need for any keepsake keys. Overrides will disappear when you return the hat.


No support for free overrides as that ruins the point behind the keys.

If you cbb to buy them you shouldn't be given things for free.

As for the idea, im undecided.
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18-May-2019 19:26:38

JoaoNoFind
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Draco Burnz said:
Whatusaytome said:


Cosmetic Overrides should be given for each hat a person owns, so a person never has to risk their hat to wear it wherever they choose, without the need for any keepsake keys. Overrides will disappear when you return the hat.


No support for free overrides as that ruins the point behind the keys.

If you cbb to buy them you shouldn't be given things for free.

As for the idea, im undecided.



Really? I would've expected an instant no support out of you, l0l.

Myself, no support, as Phats shouldn't be so cheap, and many of the colors don't look that different.
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18-May-2019 19:48:14

Blackwing
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Disclaimer: I don't own any partyhats nor am I associated with people who do.


JoaoNoFind said:
Myself, no support, as Phats shouldn't be so cheap, and many of the colors don't look that different.

No support from me as well, due to the above and other reasons.

Like said, if you were to add over a hundred different colors, because the palette of unique, distinct colors is so small, many of those colors would look too similar, and thus people wouldn't bother with the more expensive option(s) of two or more similar colors. For one example, if you put blue and mediumblue next to one another, and you'd have to figure out from the appearance which one is which, you'd basically have to resort to a coin toss -- they're that similar. People would simply buy whichever one was cheaper (probably mediumblue).

Another issue are item IDs; you can't just add dozens, let alone over a hundred, of new entries to the game cache's item DB for reckless things like a silly progression for showing off one's wealth. Jagex had to remove several variations of enchanted summoning gear because they were eating up item IDs with relatively little use; they wouldn't have done so if item IDs could be added willy-nilly.

Finally, this idea wouldn't actually do anything meaningful in practice: there are hundreds of customization options in the game already if you want to party, you don't need a paper hat to be able to have a fun party. And for showing off one's wealth, nobody cares unless it's a truly massive amount of wealth, which pretty much any amount smaller than max cash stack is not, let alone something as insignificant as 50m or even 5m only. The value of gp in the game has simply been inflated too much, coupled with the ability to legally buy gold.

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18-May-2019 22:26:29

Blackwing
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If you wanted to show off pre-max cash stack wealth, you can just as well buy an item that is actually useful as well and which can generate you even more money. E.g. who would buy a 150m gp partyhat, when they could buy a noxious scythe for the same price, and which would actually be useful too? And if you have more than max cash stack, you should have the means to get one of the OG partyhats anyway. :P

So, all in all, this suggestion is just an attempt to cause an unnatural crash in the price of the existing tradeable partyhats, seemingly out of jealousy towards the current owners of said items. There are already better existing cosmetics, as well as ways to display smaller amounts of wealth. As they say, you don't need to reinvent the wheel. You'd do much better inventing something new, and focusing on quality over quantity! > )
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18-May-2019 22:26:36

Whatusaytome

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Colors too similar: if you are curious about their status or which color they bought, examine them. The name and worth of that partyhat will be in the description and information box.

Otherwise, what's the problem with having variety?

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Item ID's: I'm sure Jagex is very capable of doing it. What's the actual problem with adding ID's? Is it a money issue, a space issue, technical issue?

Silly thing like showing wealth: what's silly about it? Is that not the current purpose of partyhats that only so few can ever own? Or anything like Rainbow Capes. It's Fashionscape for the wealthy.

Another thing, the Title Purpose is Stepping Stones. Their value never changes, but your wealth does. Buy and sell as you please, increase your total display with better hats as you save, own as many as you please and take out coins as you please.

It's a single display too, no math involved like spirit shards.

It's optional, don't like it, don't use it. I think some people will like it. And they can use it. You don't have to.

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Just a Partyhat Lowering Scheme: tbh, I do think they should be lower but this is not an attempt to do so. If I wanted to do that I'd support them doing a minor resupply through a very rare TH gem for 1 year. Which I do support. Don't add a lot, just a few to add more honest activity with them.

There may be an initial reaction from doing this. But those Originals retain all of their Rarity. They are still the only Blue, Red, etc... Partyhats in the game. They may lower at first But, the endgame is those rares!

Lastly.. If you see somebody with a
Medium Blue
partyhat and you have to insult them under the impression they are posers for not having a
Blue
. Or complain that it's not a rare, in any way. That just makes you a jerk. Let them buy what they can in the meantime as a placeholder of their journey's progress towards a Blue.
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19-May-2019 00:26:20 - Last edited on 05-Jul-2019 23:34:59 by Whatusaytome

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I think this is a good idea with great potential because this would make partyhats parties accessible to more people, which is a good thing! Additionally, 140 colours would bring variety to the parties and everyone's favourite colour would very likely be included!

I would personally prefer 5m-700m, because I don't see showing off with wealth so important. If they were 5m-700m, this would mean that a player with 200m gp would have access to 40/140 colours. Whereas if they were 50m-7000m, they would only have access to 4/140 colours.

(Actually, I would prefer 5gp-700gp, because sharing the fun is more important than showing off wealth, but I'm willing to compromise if people support the other options more)

Blackwing said:
Like said, if you were to add over a hundred different colors, because the palette of unique, distinct colors is so small, many of those colors would look too similar, and thus people wouldn't bother with the more expensive option(s) of two or more similar colors. For one example, if you put blue and mediumblue next to one another, and you'd have to figure out from the appearance which one is which, you'd basically have to resort to a coin toss -- they're that similar. People would simply buy whichever one was cheaper (probably mediumblue).

Don't worry! You can always examine the player and see what items they are showing, even if they have privacy setting in use!

Blackwing said:
Another issue are item IDs; you can't just add dozens, let alone over a hundred, of new entries to the game cache's item DB for reckless things like a silly progression for showing off one's wealth. Jagex had to remove several variations of enchanted summoning gear because they were eating up item IDs with relatively little use; they wouldn't have done so if item IDs could be added willy-nilly.

Is this what they said? I think they were removed for some other reason.
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19-May-2019 07:32:44

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JoaoNoFind said:



Really? I would've expected an instant no support out of you, l0l.


Mostly just waiting for a tl;dr as I cbb to read 2-3 paragraphs of text.

As it stands though I have to say no support as well.
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19-May-2019 14:01:53

Blackwing
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Draco Burnz said:
JoaoNoFind said:



Really? I would've expected an instant no support out of you, l0l.


Mostly just waiting for a tl;dr as I cbb to read 2-3 paragraphs of text.

As it stands though I have to say no support as well.

TL;DR
-A store where you can buy 140 new HTML colored partyhats, with a minimum price of a single color costing either 5m or 50m and a maximum of 700m or 7000m (=5m or 50m intervals in prices for the colors in between).
-Can sell the hats back to the store for a refund.
-Can get an override option without the need of a keepsake key; override is removed if refunding the hat.

There you go. > )
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19-May-2019 14:14:28

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