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USiras

USiras

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Hello Jagex and peers.

I wanted to being to your attention my personal opinion on Runescape's current direction in art style, in that it seems immature in comparison to say the HD update. Currently the latest Elite Dungeon; which features a frankly ridiculous sized, sort of Disney/Tween, or Kingdom Hearts looking crossbow; other examples are The High Armor of Hanto, (which looks downright atrocious), and Mining/Smithing ores with single colored rocks with cartoonish gems, as well as north Ardougne seemingly being hit by a meteor and replaced with a single colored farm house with only an implied second floor. :(

Now, please do not confuse me with someone who takes direct offense to this style direction, I'm sure there are many players who like these kinds of armor and weapons and cartoon places; never mind their individual tastes, (however extremely gaudy), but please do not think that all players prefer it.

To me, Runescape was always darker fantasy game--set in a relatively gritty environment all well captured somehow despite it's numerous limitations. I realize that Runescape has changed hands, and there are now sometimes drastically different expectations of the game overall, --But personally, it feels like there's only a smaller and smaller amount of room left for players like myself. But there isn't anything quite like Runescape, there isn't anywhere else to go. --I can already hear the many raised voices of the masses "go to OSRS!," but can there please be a choice between a slightly toned down WOW, and polygonal stuff from the 90's?

These sort of details were once expected, taken for granted of course, but only because these toned down, and realistic details were thought of as so universal for the game as core components; completely un-negotiable. The issue is practically unspoken in the community because I don't think most know how to articulate what exactly is wrong. But the problem is simple--it looks incredibly tacky lacking in effort.
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17-Feb-2019 00:21:06 - Last edited on 17-Feb-2019 23:51:08 by USiras

USiras

USiras

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Oh gosh, that probably sounded rude. So I'll attempt to cover myself before the endless berating of my opinions begin--I'm very interested in the longterm for RS, and yes I love this game dearly like most still active on it despite it probably being responsible for multiple academic setbacks backs and missed opportunities. But I digress, it is only because of my love for this game that gave me this level of concern for its future in the first place.

Hopefully I spelled things out pretty clearly, and to reiterate I think all of ya'll are truly wonderful human beings. Even the real story of Runescape's creation is interesting enough--and it still lives on, and competes with other studios and their products with probably four or five times their level of staff and overall funding. Or maybe not, I'm not fully aware on your exact financial success--but I do know that it was only because of lifetime players like myself. and feel so dearly attached to this game, and yet have grown so much as a person that the contrast can seem just bizarre at times. But Runescape has been one of the few constants there was, and now it feels like that constant is unfortunately coming to and end--so please don't let that happen. I don't want to live in the past with OSRS, but I do want to live in the same dear, intricate, and truly personal world that the Gowers unintentionally created in their garage from start to finish.
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17-Feb-2019 00:29:36 - Last edited on 17-Feb-2019 23:52:30 by USiras

Kings Abbot

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If you think RuneScape was a darker fantasy game, you clearly missed all the jokes hidden everywhere. RS was never adark game, it might have some more serious quests, but many quests have at least a funny part if they're not funny the whole way through. The RS Wiki needs a hand, and Bwian's will gladly take the rest of your body!
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17-Feb-2019 12:03:39

USiras

USiras

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Kings Abbot said:
If you think RuneScape was a darker fantasy game, you clearly missed all the jokes hidden everywhere. RS was never adark game, it might have some more serious quests, but many quests have at least a funny part if they're not funny the whole way through.


Not to encourage conflict, but...well screw it, I care a lot about this. Anyway, is that all you read, right up until that point, a then disregard everything else I suppose.

I guess I can assume your fine with all my other points besides whether Runescape is sufficiently dark or not, and since it's such a small component of my argument, is your argument against it a rebuttal or just a nitpick--it seems like the latter to me. And besides, a few quests or even most quests seeming comedic does not mean that the entire game itself isn't more serious (some does not mean all). In fact some quests actually delved into themes that genuinely impressed me--One Piercing Note comes to mind as I write this--it was dark and atmospheric, and just a great experience overall. Furthermore as I write this reply, and simply could not be a more perfectly timed coincidence--I came recently came across the slowly decaying body of Araav lying in the freezing snow near Ghorrock--I guess I forgot about him after ROTM. I freed his tormented soul so he could finally die after thousands of years being Zemorgral's literal meat sack of a puppet. He asked me if Zemongral was dead, and he wasn't so Aravv probably died without any true justice or closure--and all the while, one thing that immediately sprang into mind was how "funny" and lighthearted it all was.

As a side note, I'm aware of how I came off as, and in general, the first few replies are always negative on any forums too. Look, if you read my second post you would know I at the very least implied or seemed like I be totally cool with it, and that I anticipate it; after all, this thread itself is criticism.
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17-Feb-2019 16:08:14 - Last edited on 17-Feb-2019 23:53:54 by USiras

USiras

USiras

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Tenebri said:
USiras said:
To me, Runescape was always darker fantasy game--set in a relatively gritty environment all well captured somehow despite it's numerous limitations.

to you. but that holds no relevance to truth.

to me.... it was never a dark fantasy game


O lord, please read my previous response rather than reiterate the same point already made. These are tangents and distract from the main point.

The truth is High Armor of Hanto everywhere, giant swords that are sometimes, well let's be honest--most of the time on fire, and crossbows so large we'd need a forklift just to carry them around to and fro from whatever. I'm aware of the opinion that this all seems inevitable and that we should all just appreciate what dwindling normal content there is, but the doesn't mean we all have to pretend to be okay with it or be banished to OSRS--the point is it's not for the sake of being comedic when these assets are created, it's from being lazy and uninspired after a decade or so of exhaustively mining these Dev's for their creativity.
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17-Feb-2019 17:07:29 - Last edited on 17-Feb-2019 23:41:29 by USiras

Kings Abbot

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I read all you wrote. Some stuff can be pretty dark, I admit that, but there's too much comedy at other place to give it an overal dark theme.

If I understand it correctly, you just don't like some outfits? There's not a lot that can be done about that...
The RS Wiki needs a hand, and Bwian's will gladly take the rest of your body!
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17-Feb-2019 22:54:49

USiras

USiras

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Kings Abbot said:
I read all you wrote. Some stuff can be pretty dark, I admit that, but there's too much comedy at other place to give it an overal dark theme.

If I understand it correctly, you just don't like some outfits? There's not a lot that can be done about that...


Well, Thank you for you time while reading my argument Abbot,

My point isn't so much that the armor is my primary frustration; it is a part of it definitely. However, I think that how the armor along with the landscapes being produced, and the cookie cutter events are all examples of Runescape's increasingly and practically careless approach to their own game--monotoned rocks and buildings, armors resembling more of a wrap with paint on it rather than a fully textured item. It all just seems to clue in to the fact that the Dev's or Jagex or whoever cannot possibly have enough time to satisfy even their own mandates they've created for themselves and so they instead opt to pump out an inferior product--but at the cost of the game's environment.

Also there are things that can be done about ugly armors and farms and other things--OSRS had a field day with their developers after an "ugly" raids armor from Theatre of Blood surfaced, so it was then remade to fit in with the armors already in place based on fan suggestions entirely. Truthfully, I had no issue with the amor set Jagex had made, but the players of OSRS were able to enact change, and I just hope that we can as well.
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17-Feb-2019 23:25:22 - Last edited on 18-Feb-2019 06:03:28 by USiras

Kings Abbot

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I think Jagex doesn't make them super high quality on purpose so people with shitty computers can still properly play the game. There were even players still using Windows XP a year after Microsoft stopped supporting it. Jagex abandoned it too later on, but it shows that they don't design the game for gaming computers only.
I partly use a rather bad laptop to play, and I'm happy that I still get 10+ fps with medium graphics settings.
The RS Wiki needs a hand, and Bwian's will gladly take the rest of your body!
In the beginning the Universe was created.
This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.

18-Feb-2019 11:54:14

USiras

USiras

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Kings Abbot said:
I think Jagex doesn't make them super high quality on purpose so people with shitty computers can still properly play the game. There were even players still using Windows XP a year after Microsoft stopped supporting it. Jagex abandoned it too later on, but it shows that they don't design the game for gaming computers only.
I partly use a rather bad laptop to play, and I'm happy that I still get 10+ fps with medium graphics settings.


That sounds completely reasonable Kings Abbot, I forget that some users do not have the best equipment on the block. However, for those who do, can't there be an option to indulge in those kinds of graphically demanding armors/terrains. Menaphos for example utilizes a lot of lighting/shadow, and details that the game world does not use but people can get along in it on lower settings. Overall, Runescape can set custom settings based on how your computer performs. My thinking is that for those who have some power in their computers, then they should be able to see it. However, that those extra power should mean we get ahead of ourselves and overdesign to the point of looking out of place compared to what is already in game.
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21-Feb-2019 00:18:26 - Last edited on 21-Feb-2019 00:20:24 by USiras

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