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Robotwars666
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why are the keep going on about the pof nerf like do they care about their players nobody wants the nerf its just insane so just to make my point more clear iam going through their reasons

Complaint: There’s too much XP for too little activity:
mayby in the early levels yes but when you around level 70 it defintly takes times and for players like me that a grinding for 120 reducing the xp by 50% makes it close to dead content cause one entire day for a dragon egg dragon babby from 20k>to10k adolscent 30k>15k this make it not worth it all to even check since doing only magic tree's would be way better xp and only take 8 hours btw isnt farming the skill where you plant and only check every once a while like 2 3 hours one later levels

Complaint: There are too many animals in the game, reducing their value:
realy? mayby chickens rabbits yeah but dragon yaks and zygomites normaly takes an entire day so why nerf even them so now iam lucky i get 1 dragon egg in 2 days that makes my above point even worse

There’s no point in feeding the animals because they eat so little
idk my food pens are getting empty pretty fast and i put 500 in all of them

These changes will make it harder to complete the breeding log
besides i already got this one because i grinded for it it wasnt easy before it could take weeks to months to get a shiny one so another update that seems pointless

are any others pissed about this cause this seems so stupid to me i was trying to get 120 before the nerf because it feels like this nerf realy makes it diffucult since farming isnt a grind skill but an plant and wait skill and how about the woody beans do they at least stay the same?
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12-Sep-2019 13:36:20

Robotwars666
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they basicly making pof dead content nobody would care about anymore just think about first a hunter nerf now pof whats next looks like they want to nerf everything instead of giving us something we want like a new quest i mean even some people are ok with it now just think about it they are more nerfing and adding small changes then relasing new content thats is realy a shame
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12-Sep-2019 18:23:20

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I didn't do PoF in earnest until recently, when my Farming was at 93. I bought a few dragon eggs(I'm poor and even I didn't flinch at the cost), put them in the farm, and just checked on it daily. I got new dragon eggs for free from it, allowing me to continue until I reached 99 without any more gp spent. It took me maybe 2-3 weeks of zero effort PoF. I have since cleared out the farm as I don't have any desire to go to 120 or whatever.

The proposed changes won't completely take away the usefulness of PoF, as it requires almost no involvement and 50% of the xp is still quite high. A dragon giving you 100k xp with little investment is fantastic. If these changes were implemented before I started, sure, it would have taken longer for me to get the skill to 99, but I'd do it without complaint.

But don't assume I'm for the nerf. I'd say I'm more neutral as it does not affect me. If it did, I would be a little bit bummed, of course, but even so, I wouldn't whine about it.
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12-Sep-2019 18:26:17

Robotwars666
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not al all it will mayby be popular but definlty not the best the nerf will make magic tree's 100% beter but not that magic tree's are bad they super good but i read everything the update would do i basicly would make lvl 90 dragon worse then lvl 75 magic tree's i mean it isnt supposed to be like that i mean i got 102 farming before pof if they realy want to do it beter do it level based xp i mean yeah it doenst need much attention but isnt that farming al patches you plant check back later to harvest or clear and replant 50% less xp harder to breed with pets i think they should just poll this because honsatly i dont think most people prefer nerfs over new content
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12-Sep-2019 21:58:45

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Robotwars666 said:
not al all it will mayby be popular but definlty not the best the nerf will make magic tree's 100% beter but not that magic tree's are bad they super good but i read everything the update would do i basicly would make lvl 90 dragon worse then lvl 75 magic tree's i mean it isnt supposed to be like that i mean i got 102 farming before pof if they realy want to do it beter do it level based xp i mean yeah it doenst need much attention but isnt that farming al patches you plant check back later to harvest or clear and replant 50% less xp harder to breed with pets i think they should just poll this because honsatly i dont think most people prefer nerfs over new content
Lack of punctuation and poor grammar aside, you are correct that magic trees would be better xp per week. However, you need to also consider player time invested, and cost. They're both similar in terms of player involvement. We don't need to do much either way. But magic trees are way more expensive as you'll need to buy a lot of seeds, and possibly supercompost to improve the odds of your trees surviving. PoF, you technically only need to start with two dragons once you reach the necessary level requirement. Sure, it'll be slow at first, but after the initial purchase of a couple dragons, aside from occasionally replenishing food, you would spend almost nothing. Even with the proposed changes, PoF will remain FAR more cost-effective, while remaining just as simple, easy, and uninvolved as it has always been.

You also need to understand that nerfs are important in games like these. The opposite leads to power creep, and nerfs help slow it down. We might not like it when our favorite content becomes a bit less potent, but sometimes, it is necessary for the health of the game. The only other option is to massively improve regular farming, and that could potentially lead to buffs for everything else down the road. A vicious cycle of power creep.
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13-Sep-2019 02:16:18 - Last edited on 13-Sep-2019 02:17:33 by Peaky

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I was getting 200k-250k xp/day with pof breeding dragons zygos and chins. Achievements get devalued over time 120 farming is still an achievement. I got 110-119 farm with pof but this took a year so it's not really that op. It's just that other farming methods are bad.


This nerf will kill off zygo breeding.
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13-Sep-2019 02:39:52 - Last edited on 13-Sep-2019 02:40:40 by ELITE STACK

Robotwars666
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so the cost per magic tree
1 magic seed = 25k
25 coconuts = 66k (if you have farmers outfit its 23 = 60k)
total cost 85k-91k

and about my poor grammar english isnt my first langue so yes it isnt perfect at all
and its true pof require no attention besides putting dragons in then pen and checking every once in a while but idk the nerf for dragons i can think about and say well alright then but medium tier animals will be close to worthless now 50% nerf will make spiders for example less xp then when you get 5 herbs and zygo's nerfed to 8k xp while their breed rate is already pretty low/long taking is just making zygo's bad xp (more like all medium tier animals) and the also gonna increase the breeding time i mean if it just was the xp ok but also the breeding is a a step to far so what you now gonna get like 1 zygomite per 30 hours for 8k xp isnt that a joke?? around that time you alread could have 38k xp for 1 magic tree (magic tree's are good and expensive i know but its the best example to take as
comparison) so mayby the nerf does a few good things but i also kills alot i still find this nerf stupid they could basicly do the same with pof then magic tree's pay something for getting a breed 100%
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13-Sep-2019 15:18:14

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Why would you ever pay for protection when the protection cost is more than double of the seed cost? Just use ultracompost and it'll have 93% chance of survival. Or even supercompost which gives your trees 86% chance of survival.

You wanna do a proper comparison? Do it like this:

For 1 week, you can do:

2x tree run daily, 1x fruit tree run daily = 84 magic trees and 49 palm trees

Magic tree xp = 84 x (145.5 + 13768.3) = 1,168,759.2 xp
Palm tree xp = 49 x (110.5 + 10,150.1 + 41.5 x 6) = 514,970.4 xp

Total of 1,683,729.6 xp

OR

Grow to elder chinchompas 4 times, spiders 6 times, dragons once

Chin xp = 4 times x 12 chins x 15,000 xp = 720,000 xp
Spider xp = 6 times x 8 spiders x 10,000 xp = 480,000 xp
Dragon xp = 1 time x 10 dragons x 100,000 xp = 1,000,000 xp

Total of 2,200,000 xp

Only 30% better xp, such dead content. As for cost, can't really comment on it until new prices are established, but as it stands for cost for chins are 5.26 gp/xp, spiders are 7.12 gp/xp, and dragons are 2.21 gp/xp. Or ignore food cost and just use honeycomb and flavoured milk.
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