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Fritzki
Mar Gold Premier Club Member 2016

Fritzki

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Hi

I've been using a single action bar ever since the extremely misleading "multiple action bars for legacy interface"

my HuD system is always brown, and not see through. i was an avid hater of the EoC update but like most, wont let go of the game i like playing. especially considering that legacy mode is a viable option.

Here we are in QoL week, and ive had one hell of a ride. It was amazing to be given action abrs on legacy. i set one up immidietly with my prayers, the spellswap of my choice, and added a few abilties that i would prefer from revolution, so that i could switch without resetting my action bar every time.

At this point i had to deal with remaking the action bars every time i switched from eoc -> legacy, or lobbied. which i was doing a lot doing elite dungeons.

Now today im unable to get my legacy action bar at all, and people are telling me it was never intended?

@jagex there is no exceedingly rewarding benefit from having an action bar on legacy. ESPECIALLY during quality of life week.... This week ive felt victim to the terrible settings menu more than ever before, and now i feel like you dont want people using legacy... You should comment on these things formally. there is a great deal of confusion st to your intention with QoL and legacy in general. Do you want us to choose between them? or do you want everyone using EoC and only offer legacy as what?

all these new beta changes wont really effect legacy.... only some items, so i feel the balancing of legacy is still something you should consider

11-Jun-2019 21:15:58

Fritzki
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Fritzki

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As kind of a direct comment... Id like to add that if your intentions are to remove Legacy from Runescape3, then my intentions will be to quit and play oldschool.

you have me scared now @jagex

11-Jun-2019 21:20:25

Kandoruus
May Member 2018

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Iím an old player coming back, I quit when eoc came out but after coming back a few times and giving it a chance itís really not that bad. Setting it in revolution mode allows it to be as simple as legacy if thatís what you want. Just look up a guide for bar setup, then set it and forget it.

It seems logical that legacy will eventually be retired. Itís hard to balance two separate combat systems in one game. And like you said there is always osrs for the people who really hate eoc. I personally would consider switching if it wasnít for all the hours Iíve put into this account. Donít like the idea of starting from scratch.

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11-Jun-2019 21:38:23 - Last edited on 17-Jun-2019 06:02:55 by Kandoruus

Ethereal199
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Fritzki said:
Now today im unable to get my legacy action bar at all, and people are telling me it was never intended?


The legacy combat mode was added into the game for those players who cannot be bothered to take the time to learn the EOC combat mode. It is meant to have special attacks, the old style user interface, etc, you know as close to what pre-EOC was. It isn't meant to have any action bars, since pre-EOC never had those.

Keep in mind, that Jagex isn't going to spend too much time with the legacy combat mode, as the majority of the playerbase use the EOC combat mode (that includes manual and revolution). This is different to the legacy interface mode, where players can use that while in EOC combat mode. Therefore, that change in the patch notes was for this situation, as these players still use abilities.

Fritzki said:
As kind of a direct comment... Id like to add that if your intentions are to remove Legacy from Runescape3, then my intentions will be to quit and play oldschool.

you have me scared now @jagex


Unless you buy Treasure Hunter keys or regularly buy cosmetics in Solomon's General Store, Jagex stands to lose very little for legacy combat players who switch over to OSRS, as membership is shared between both RS3 and OSRS.

Jagex would prefer if all players were using EOC combat mode, considering returning players are defaulted to the revolution combat mode in an effort to assist in the transition to using full manual combat mode. Revolution combat mode isn't even that hard to use anyway, so returning players still have the choice to stick with revolution, which is superior to the legacy combat mode.
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12-Jun-2019 06:40:47 - Last edited on 12-Jun-2019 06:47:53 by Ethereal199

Roddy†Piper
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Ethereal199 said:
Fritzki said:
Now today im unable to get my legacy action bar at all, and people are telling me it was never intended?


The legacy combat mode was added into the game for those players who cannot be bothered to take the time to learn the EOC combat mode. It is meant to have special attacks, the old style user interface, etc, you know as close to what pre-EOC was. It isn't meant to have any action bars, since pre-EOC never had those.

Keep in mind, that Jagex isn't going to spend too much time with the legacy combat mode, as the majority of the playerbase use the EOC combat mode (that includes manual and revolution). This is different to the legacy interface mode, where players can use that while in EOC combat mode. Therefore, that change in the patch notes was for this situation, as these players still use abilities.

Fritzki said:
As kind of a direct comment... Id like to add that if your intentions are to remove Legacy from Runescape3, then my intentions will be to quit and play oldschool.

you have me scared now @jagex


Jagex would prefer if all players were using EOC combat mode, considering returning players are defaulted to the revolution combat mode in an effort to assist in the transition to using full manual combat mode. Revolution combat mode isn't even that hard to use anyway, so returning players still have the choice to stick with revolution, which is superior to the legacy combat mode.



I love these posts where a player makes up their own data and declares it to be company policy. IN FACT 99% of the players hate this combat system, enough that 99% of them flat out QUIT THE GAME.

They QUIT!

12-Jun-2019 13:32:10

Fritzki
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Fritzki

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"Jagex would prefer if all players were using EOC combat mode, considering returning players are defaulted to the revolution combat mode in an effort to assist in the transition to using full manual combat mode. Revolution combat mode isn't even that hard to use anyway, so returning players still have the choice to stick with revolution, which is superior to the legacy combat mode."

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I find there to be a very big psychological difference between the "legacy" and "rev++" that ive been learning about.

1.) Flashing button annoyance - every time your character does an action, all the buttons flash and rotate these black marks to show when they are ready... when you are trying to play it casually, this is a big distraction, and makes you wanna press buttons with it. and in rev++, its really better to just let the abilities fire off as they are or you lower your dps (from a perfect dmg rotation)

2.) Weapon attack speeds - this is my favourite thing about legacy mode. getting those "fastest" attack speed items and watchign consistantly timed damage splats on your enemy. Its rythmic and its casual and it feels just like the runescape most know and love. grabbing a 2h sword set to average and knocking your target an 8,000 is how i know. on Eoc its just a bunch of 3,500's stacking together quickly at seemingly random intervals. no rythem

3.) Special Attacks - never do i bother with special attacks in EoC. especially ones that eat up a large percentage of your special attack bar. But in legacy it opens up the ability to whack that bandos godsword spec at the start of the kill, and then move on. etcetc on other special attacks.

4.) Ancient Magiks - Barraging a huge room of enemies is no fun in Eoc. it just isnt. I LOVE taking barrage / burst magiks into wherever i can and continually casting the 3x3 spells at great rune cost. even on my ironman here because its just an effective method of combat, and is such an iconic "high-lvl" runescape achievment.

12-Jun-2019 18:04:57

Fritzki
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Fritzki

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Adding even just ONE ability bar to legacy would offer a great ease of play for many, and could help break a lot of these osrs players away from hating on the runescape they grew up with.

It would also help people transition from oldschool back to legacy as they learn the game and its mechanics at their own pace

12-Jun-2019 18:06:37 - Last edited on 12-Jun-2019 18:06:52 by Fritzki

Vaseth
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Fritzki said:


I find there to be a very big psychological difference between the "legacy" and "rev++" that ive been learning about.

1.) Flashing button annoyance

press the little arrow in top right corner of the bar and u wont see the little flashing squares :)


2.) Weapon attack speeds - Eoc its just a bunch of 3,500's stacking together quickly at seemingly random intervals. no rythem

random how? everything pops at the same speed except channelled abilities and snipe. if you dont like um, take um off your bar i suppose bleeds can add to that too, but i assure you that if u learn it, its not random


3.) Special Attacks - never do i bother with special attacks in EoC. especially ones that eat up a large percentage of your special attack bar. But in legacy it opens up the ability to whack that bandos godsword spec at the start of the kill, and then move on. etcetc on other special attacks.

you can get adrenalin urns you fll up that stops adren drain in eoc, and even dummies u can place to build your adren, so you can build to 100 adren and then hold it there for 2-3 minutes without doing anything at all, so u can start off with spec like your uesd to still


4.) Ancient Magiks - Barraging a huge room of enemies is no fun in Eoc. it just isnt. I LOVE taking barrage / burst magiks into wherever i can and continually casting the 3x3 spells at great rune cost. even on my ironman here because its just an effective method of combat, and s such an iconic "high-lvl" runescape achievment

i actually agree here

they allow chins to still do this though, meaning you can hit a 3x3 square with abilities, which is totally awesome when its a good ability, and i think they should let you do this with ancient magics to, at a cost of guaranteed rune usage (wild magic or asphyxiate on a 3x3 square would be so nice)

20-Jun-2019 02:38:27 - Last edited on 20-Jun-2019 02:40:27 by Vaseth

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