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Prime Axiom
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Is group content not still game content?

It's called the completionist cape, not the loner's cape.

You gotta complete all notable game content for it. End of story.

If it were up to me, you oughta have to collect all 3 sets of full achto for trim. Be thankful of Jagex's extreme generosity with these insanely easy PVM requirements.

05-Mar-2018 05:21:06 - Last edited on 05-Mar-2018 05:43:25 by Prime Axiom

Nex is Life
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Kcin said:
So these things that take thousands of hours like cwars and champion scrolls are on trim, therefore relevant content should be taken off regular comp?
Again you're saying completionist doesn't require x, therefore take y requirement I don't like off.

Let's bring this up again ;)
Kcin said:

Get back to me on that when you get multiple people to wear the cape you own and not their own.
So can multiple people wear your trim cape? Or do you think all group content should be taken off that too?
If not, then how is regular comp "solo content" but not trim? Other people can't wear yours, right? Since that's your reasoning behind calling comp solo content. Why does it apply to one but not the other?
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05-Mar-2018 13:24:37

Dilbert2001
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Prime Axiom said:
Is group content not still game content?

It's called the completionist cape, not the loner's cape.

You gotta complete all notable game content for it. End of story.

If it were up to me, you oughta have to collect all 3 sets of full achto for trim. Be thankful of Jagex's extreme generosity with these insanely easy PVM requirements.


Is wildy and PvP combat content not still game content?

It's called the completionist cape, not the Care Bear's cape.

You gotta complete all notable game content for it. End of story.

The fact is the current so-called "completionist" cape is not really completionist. It is obvious that completionist is not completed when you can make it more "complete" with trimmed completionist requirements.

The "completeionist" title is actually an antiquated one. It started out way back when there were few or no other visual achievements to other players other than Hiscores that players had to get off the game to check. But time flies, and we have >9000 other visual achievements from titles, capes, wardrobes, pets. among other things. Completionist actually means very very little to newer players as 99.99% of them are forced to ignore them since it takes them years to get one. They'll rather use their precious time to get other visual forms of achievements such as pets and boss titles.

I still think the best idea is just to break the far-from-completed "completionist" title into new ones in different aspects of the game. The new visible achievements will then better represent the actual achievements and end most of the "I am completionist because I do this content of the game, you are complete trash because I don't do whatever trash you do" arguments.

05-Mar-2018 17:14:25 - Last edited on 05-Mar-2018 17:16:15 by Dilbert2001

Kcin
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Prime Axiom said:

You gotta complete all notable game content for it. End of story.

How is killing raids once more notable than completing the slayer codex? Or getting tier 10 rep in meno? How is rots more notable than penance king? The reqs are arbitrary end of story.

Nex is Life said:
So these things that take thousands of hours like cwars and champion scrolls are on trim, therefore relevant content should be taken off regular comp?

In your words:
Nex is Life said:
I think comp cape should be a high goal to strive for, not something handed out to everybody. I also think harder to complete tasks that take less time, such as reaper, are more better requirements

So yes by your logic they should be on comp cape and not on trim only. If you disagree there is not a logical reason as to why to keep a req on comp
Nex is Life said:
Or are YOU going to pick and choose and say not that one actually?


Nex is Life said:

Get back to me on that when you get multiple people to wear the cape you own and not their own.
So can multiple people wear your trim cape? /quote]

Ahh so you do agree comp cape is solo content. Avoidance of a given answer, answering a question with a question clearly shows you cannot answer it and know you are wrong.
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05-Mar-2018 21:48:37

Nex is Life
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Kcin said:

How is killing raids once more notable than completing the slayer codex? Or getting tier 10 rep in meno? How is rots more notable than penance king? The reqs are arbitrary end of story.

So yes by your logic they should be on comp cape and not on trim only. If you disagree there is not a logical reason as to why to keep a req on comp
Ahh so you do agree comp cape is solo content. Avoidance of a given answer, answering a question with a question clearly shows you cannot answer it and know you are wrong.

No I don't know did you managed to come the conclusion I think comp is solo content. It isn't and shouldn't be. Comp cape is completing all/most content including group content.

I am not at all against more things being on comp, especially non-repeatables.
As for putting all trim reqs on, whats the point in having both capes then? I think trim is containment for requirements which take a daft amount of time (ps reaper title takes 5 minutes). But certainly some could be on regular comp.
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05-Mar-2018 22:54:43

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
Avoidance of a given answer, answering a question with a question clearly shows you cannot answer it and know you are wrong.

No I don't know did you managed to come the conclusion I think comp is solo content.[/quote]
Thanks for quoting the answer so I didn't have to. Just reread that part
Nex is Life said:

It isn't and shouldn't be. Comp cape is completing all/most content including group content.

Yeah no it isn't. There are a ton of trim comp reqs that aren't comp reqs, there are a ton of mqc reqs that aren't, there is a ton of content that isn't on any of those and aren't on comp. But please go on living in your lie.

Nex is Life said:

As for putting all trim reqs on, whats the point in having both capes then?

If comp cape was as you state there wouldn't even be a trim comp.
Kcin said:
Why does group bosses get on comp but not mqc requirements, why do minigames get left out while those are part of the game. Etc etc. There is no sound reason to keep group bosses on comp cape while there is plenty of things that aren't reqs.
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06-Mar-2018 00:13:32

Nex is Life
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Kcin said:

You're dismissing my argument soley on the grounds of a being a fallacy which is in itself a fallacy, as is picking that out over other points I've made.
My point, was asking you if you consider trim comp to be solo content as well because of the silly suggestion that because other people can't wear your cape, it's solo content. It's not.
Last time I checked other people couldn't wear my achto, so that can't be a correct definition of whether something is solo content or not.

You still resort to "well other things aren't on comp". How is that a reason to take more things off? If anything it's a reason to put more non-repeatable stuff on.
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06-Mar-2018 01:08:54 - Last edited on 06-Mar-2018 01:09:29 by Nex is Life

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
Kcin said:

You're dismissing my argument


Actually you still never answered mine so whos the one dismissing arguments and talking about dismissed arguments:
Kcin said:

Why isn't the champ challenge on comp cape if reaper is. Why is reaper so important to comp cape that you are so up in arms trying to defend it when there is a plethora of reasons why it is an arbitrary requirement that can easily be removed and replaced. Why isn't Hard as daemons, why isn't nomad's mirage, why isn't diary of oreb, or the history of slayer. The list goes on and on.


Face it reaper is just another arbitrary requirement that can be removed without any actual harm.
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06-Mar-2018 01:13:20 - Last edited on 06-Mar-2018 01:13:52 by Kcin

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