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Kcin
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Nex is Life said:

Sup Reefwalker has the best in slot HP and armour boost.

remove the stats and there is no difference between scroll unlock for sup reefwalker vs sup ports gear. Strengthening my point on comp reqs make no sense as to what is put on and what is left off.

Nex is Life said:

Reducing a time gated requirement is not the same as a removing a requirement. You've proven you can harvest Harmony Moss (its very hard) so harvesting 150 more is somewhat needless. Now if 200 kills in each boss were the requirement, I would support reducing that.

I keep saying replace with a more reasonable req. And in this exact quote you make yourself a hypocrite.

Nex is Life said:
guess you speak for "the community". The same community that kills tens of thousands of group bosses every day.

Now lets compare that number to the amount of people who don't group boss and see who the bigger community is. We both now the answer isn't the group bossing sub community.
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09-Mar-2018 04:41:04 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 04:43:03 by Kcin

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Kcin said:
It aint an ad hominem never directed it at you

No, it is not the quest fight, it is a hard version of the quest fight no checkpoint, no interludes. From the wiki "The Memory of Nomad is essentially a Hard mode version of the fight in Nomad's Elegy. Most of the mechanics are the same as in the normal fight and there are a few additional mechanics, especially in the final phase."

Reaper has no more right to be on comp than all the left out reqs. Group content doesn't have the right to block solo content. You keep crying that its group content its a group game. If its a group game why are minigames dead, why is solo content thriving, why are group bosses hated by many?

We both know thats not true.

Hmm I see.

But reaper isn't "blocking" any requirements at all. It is not in any way stopping other things being put on. There is no "group content blocking solo content".
The reason most minigames are dead is because the rewards aren't worth getting.
It's a game with solo and group content. I didn't say exclusively a group game.
Group bosses are hated by many people who are bad because they can't do them.
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09-Mar-2018 04:43:49

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:

We both know thats not true.

Please show me where I stated you, or your name.

Nex is Life said:

But reaper isn't "blocking" any requirements at all.

The group bosses are because finding a group.. (already been over that point)

Nex is Life said:

There is no "group content blocking solo content".

Comp cape is solo content(only one person can use it) and group bosses are blocking that.

Nex is Life said:

The reason most minigames are dead is because the rewards aren't worth getting.

Actually its because the community is moving away from group content slowly. They made thaler to improve minigame rewards and still they are in the same condition because the community is moving away from group content. Its jagex that is wanting the group bosses mostly.
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09-Mar-2018 04:47:34

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Kcin said:
But if they don't let others learn, if they refuse to let them on the team because they don't have bis... I don't want to or have to deal with them anymore and I will cry and cry and cry

I didn't call you anything, I didn't direct anything at you, it isn't my fault if you feel you fall into that category.

Yet someone who has a comp cape should have knowledge of the game and its updates.

It isn't rag tag as it is with the thrown together requirements with the requirements that make no sense to have left off when there are things on it similar in nature? This is their chance to revamp comp remove the group content off comp cape, add in requirements that make sense, and actually make it a uniform requirement cape.
Lucky for you only a minority of PvMers are like this because the rest of us remember we were all learners once.

You don't have to call someone things to be a dick. "Not knowing about a simple teleport" "Doesn't excuse not knowing about it". The funny part being I did know about it because I had it unlocked but obviously forgot about one minor spell I've never used.

No, nobody has to know about every patch and update ever that doesn't effect their gameplay. I don't need to know about that novice quest I did 10 years ago, I just need to have done it.

It's not being revamped. Just one thing possibly removed, nothing to replace it, nothing new, and nothing uniform. I would actually like more... complete... comp cape.
But there would be no reason to exclude group content. "Solo content doesn't have the right to block group content", nothing should be blocking other content.
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09-Mar-2018 04:53:33

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
Lucky for you only a minority of PvMers are like this because the rest of us remember we were all learners once.

Yeah they say that about the dung community, and yet there was a reason why I soloed 200m.

Nex is Life said:

You don't have to call someone things to be a dick.

Much like saying people who point out flaws in the requirements or those who think something has no place on comp are babies and criers, whiners, can't even boss, what else have you called it? But we digress.
Don't call out people when you are guilty yourself of what you are calling out


Nex is Life said:

No, nobody has to know about every patch and update ever that doesn't effect their gameplay.

Because comp cape has no format to its reqs, if it did that teleport would have been a req and therefore you would have known, so yes you should have if you want to go for a comp cape, just like how you say you should be forced into group bosses. Or are you going to continue what you keep saying you hate about it?

Nex is Life said:

It's not being revamped.

Never said it was, saying it was a good chance for them to. A start is to remove reaper from comp.
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09-Mar-2018 04:58:06

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Kcin said:

Please show me where I stated you, or your name.

The group bosses are because finding a group.. (already been over that point)

Comp cape is solo content(only one person can use it) and group bosses are blocking that.

Actually its because the community is moving away from group content slowly. They made thaler to improve minigame rewards and still they are in the same condition because the community is moving away from group content. Its jagex that is wanting the group bosses mostly.
It was implied and we both know that.

How exactly does finding a group to do reaper stop other requirements being on comp? How doesn't that "block" anything?

Now this we've been over. "Only one person can use it" So is trim solo content? What about my Achto? Only I can use it. But your standards that's solo content? If that's the definition of solo content what is the definition of group content?

Yeah, most minigames are dead content. Group PvM on the other hand is thriving.
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09-Mar-2018 04:59:15

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Kcin said:

Yeah they say that about the dung community, and yet there was a reason why I soloed 200m.

Because comp cape has no format to its reqs, if it did that teleport would have been a req and therefore you would have known, so yes you should have if you want to go for a comp cape, just like how you say you should be forced into group bosses. Or are you going to continue what you keep saying you hate about it?

Never said it was, saying it was a good chance for them to. A start is to remove reaper from comp.
Maybe it's you who has a problem getting on with people. I had no idea how to DG fast but people were helpful to me. If I were 119 DG and joined a team of randoms I wouldn't be surprised if they expected me to know what I was doing, however.

Sure the teleport should be a req.

Mmmm yes remove reaper and replace it with all PvM feats.
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09-Mar-2018 05:05:16

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
It was implied and we both know that.

How you take it i cannot control, but I didnt not imply anything about you, just stating what the flaws in group bosses as a req for solo content is.

Nex is Life said:

How doesn't that "block" anything?

Person wants comp -> they get all the requirements besides reaper -> they can't find a team cause elistist won't take them, their friends stopped playing years ago -> can't get comp.
Solo content blocked by group content. Simple as 1+1

Nex is Life said:

Now this we've been over. "Only one person can use it" So is trim solo content?

Yes, but the difference is trim is more of a true comp cape, and trim is what the completionist cape should be. Comp cape now should be renamed to its original concept name Uber cape because thats what it is.

Nex is Life said:

What about my Achto? Only I can use it.

Again, it was designed from the start to be a reward from the group activity raids. Comp cape was not intended to be from group content at the beginning, hence why no group bosses were a comp req at its creation.
Nex is Life said:
Group PvM on the other hand is thriving.

For a small group of the community.

Nex is Life said:
Maybe it's you who has a problem getting on with people.

Speaking of ad hominems
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Kcin said:
How you take it i cannot control

Person wants comp -> they get all the requirements besides reaper -> they can't find a team cause they refuse to talk to people or find learner teams -> can't get comp.

Yes, but the difference is trim is more of a true comp cape, and trim is what the completionist cape should be. Comp cape now should be renamed to its original concept name Uber cape because thats what it is.

Again, it was designed from the start to be a reward from the group activity raids. Comp cape was not intended to be from group content at the beginning, hence why no group bosses were a comp req at its creation.

For a small group of the community.

Speaking of ad hominems

lol

No, what I meant was, how does having reaper block other requirements being on there?

But other people can't wear your trimmed comp cape. So how does that work as a standard?

Now there, that's a better argument than "other people can't wear yours". Group bosses are on there now, so... cry.

Large group.

I was being serious. If you can't find anyone, anywhere to do group content with, maybe the problem isn't everyone else?
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09-Mar-2018 05:24:39

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:

No, what I meant was, how does having reaper block other requirements being on there?

Never said that, you misread and try to twist my words so I'll explain what I meant again:
Kcin said:

Person wants comp -> they get all the requirements besides reaper -> they can't find a team cause they refuse to talk to people or find learner teams -> can't get comp.


Nex is Life said:

But other people can't wear your trimmed comp cape. So how does that work as a standard?

Because Trim cape actually holds reqs from nearly all realms of the game. Comp cape like you said only has a mere 68 reqs, which is nowhere near what trim has and how diverse trim is compared to comp. So thats how it works as a standard. Sure trim still is arbitarily reqed right now but its way closer than comp cape is.

Nex is Life said:

so... cry.

People think what you think is wrong. so... cry.

Nex is Life said:

If you can't find anyone, anywhere to do group content with, maybe the problem isn't everyone else?

If many people can't find anywhere to do a group content with, maybe the problem isn't the person themselves?
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09-Mar-2018 05:34:57 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 05:58:19 by Kcin

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