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Nex is Life
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Kcin said:

Kcin said:

Person wants comp -> they get all the requirements besides reaper -> they can't find a team cause they refuse to talk to people or find learner teams -> can't get comp.


Because Trim cape actually holds reqs from nearly all realms of the game. Comp cape like you said only has a mere 68 reqs, which is nowhere near what trim has and how diverse trim is compared to comp. So thats how it works as a standard. Sure trim still is arbitarily reqed right now but its way closer than comp cape is.

If many people can't find anywhere to do a group content with, maybe the problem isn't the person themselves?

hmmmm

But other people can't wear your trim cape.
Also the number of requirements isn't as important as they aren't all equal. One of those 68 is complete all 200+ quests. Another is get a minimum of 375m exp.

If many people can't find others to do group content with maybe they should team up with each other... oh wait... they do... the sensibles ones at least. If you're claiming that it is impossible to find PvM teams then it's because you're not looking.
Then you go and say how everyone is an elitist who doesn't let you on their team if you don't have BIS, which is simply not true, even if it were whats stopping you making a team with other people who don't?
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09-Mar-2018 06:20:57

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The problem with the comp cape is that even releasing into the game in the first place was a mistake, it's an inherently flawed concept to begin with that will never be able to be removed because of how much time Jagex has inadvertently caused players to spend in getting it.

Fortunately the EoC completely destroying cape diversity inadvertently made the comp cape a lot healthier for the game. Trying to make a cape thats entire design philosophy is "this cape is the best cape in the game at every aspect of the game forever" is absolutely mind-boggling in how it got approved.

That's the real problem with the comp cape. It's an irreversible mistake that FORCES capes to all be slightly different variations of each other because diverse capes = disgustingly broken comp cape.
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09-Mar-2018 10:15:55

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:

But other people can't wear your trim cape.

It's called standards, and what is was initially made for. Trim comp was made to be an actual comp cape, comp cape wasn't. How much more clear do I have to make that simple point?

Nex is Life said:

Also the number of requirements isn't as important as they aren't all equal.

Yeah leechper isn't as important as story you are right if you want to make that point.

Nex is Life said:

If many people can't find others to do group content

Jagex shouldn't force it in first place, problem solved. Its been shown before their grouping systems suck and people are calling for future bosses to be gwd1 style soloable but can go in groups. Key part make them soloable. I wonder why...

Nex is Life said:

If you're claiming that it is impossible to find PvM teams then it's because you're not looking.

Oh yeah I look, and great majority don't even consider you if you dont have bis the others make you pay.

Again I ask what does reaper itself bring to the table that makes it so worth for you to cry over it being removed because it doesn't fit.
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09-Mar-2018 14:46:42

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Reaper rewards are incredible lol.
Open the reaper shop man, you miss alot.


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09-Mar-2018 15:01:04

Nex is Life
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Kcin said:

Jagex shouldn't force it in first place, problem solved. Its been shown before their grouping systems suck and people are calling for future bosses to be gwd1 style soloable but can go in groups. Key part make them soloable. I wonder why...

Oh yeah I look, and great majority don't even consider you if you dont have bis the others make you pay.

Again I ask what does reaper itself bring to the table that makes it so worth for you to cry over it being removed because it doesn't fit.
GWD2 released four such bosses, that's more than the two solo and one group boss we've had in the last couple of years. We hardly need more like that right now. If a boss is soloable but you can go in a group it makes it a joke as you can mass it with like 4 people no effort. That;s the kind of content for people for only like to AFK and don't want anything more complex than clicking a tree to woodcut.

I don't have BIS. Yet I find teams... hmmm...
A great majority of people don't have best in slot, there is nothing stopping you going with them? Unless you're expecting to go do high level PvM with T70s???
There are many people willing to take people to learn, people who don't have the best gear so you're not looking.

It makes people try PvM, some will get their comp kills and never return, others will enjoy it and the PvM community will grow.
According to you, none of the requirements fit and they are all arbitrary. If none of them fit, why does one more matter?
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09-Mar-2018 17:40:09 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 17:40:30 by Nex is Life

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Nex is Life said:
GWD2 released four such bosses, that's more than the two solo and one group boss we've had in the last couple of years.

And there is a reason why people keep wanting bosses like that. There is a reason why Solak has created a controversy about it being made.

Nex is Life said:

I don't have BIS. Yet I find teams.

Let me guess you also were able to start killing day 1 or very close to release.

Nex is Life said:

It makes people try PvM

People can try PvM without having to be forced in a group. The solo bosses do that perfectly.


Nex is Life said:
If none of them fit, why does one more matter?

Again you can't give a reason why reaper itself is so important to comp that it can't be replaced.
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09-Mar-2018 19:34:24

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Kcin said:
And there is a reason why people keep wanting bosses like that. There is a reason why Solak has created a controversy about it being made.

Let me guess you also were able to start killing day 1 or very close to release.

People can try PvM without having to be forced in a group. The solo bosses do that perfectly.

Again you can't give a reason why reaper itself is so important to comp that it can't be replaced.
Well as gamestyle is a matter of personal preference there should be bosses for all team sizes, including solo only and including team raids. Solo (only) or Duo bosses were options on the survey so one of those is potentially next after Solak and I am looking forward to either.

For some bosses I was either not playing at the time or busy being a noob. But the ones I was there for, AoD and Raids, I spent a long time fighting them, I died a lot, I learned mechanics firsthand without any of the information that is available now, I teamed up with people I didn't know and eventually mastered them.
But I do know what it's like to try and start a boss with no experience years after release, and how some teams will teach you, others just want to get their fast kills without mistakes someone new might make and that's why I am happy to help others.

But not every boss. People make comfort zones of what they have done before, some are daunted by the prospect of finding teams. Instead some people will try something they haven't done before and regret not doing it sooner.

Because it stops you getting comp.
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09-Mar-2018 20:18:25 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 20:18:57 by Nex is Life

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Nex is Life said:
there should be bosses for all team sizes

Yet they have that capability with several bosses scaling to the size of group in, no reason they cant make it soloable instead of forcing groups and then scale to group sizes. Point being group forced bosses are unnecessary.

Nex is Life said:

Because it stops you getting comp.


So petty, so you admit you can't give a reason. Exact reason why reaper can be released it has no place special.
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09-Mar-2018 20:34:01

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Kcin said:
Yet they have that capability with several bosses scaling to the size of group in, no reason they cant make it soloable instead of forcing groups and then scale to group sizes. Point being group forced bosses are unnecessary.
Why are you even playing an MMO if you hate any kind of grouping/teaming?
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09-Mar-2018 21:29:19

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
Why are you even playing an MMO if you hate any kind of grouping/teaming?


1) who says i hate it
2) just because its an mmo, doean't mean its only multiplayer
3)talking is multiplayer, trading etc
4)why do you keep avoiding answering the question?
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09-Mar-2018 21:37:24

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