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Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
A large amount of them was copy pasted I didn't say they were exactly the same

Saying copy paste is synonymous to saying exactly the same.

Nex is Life said:

Yep never denied that. Just waiting for you to admit that both are a part of the game.

One has existed for 16 years, while the other has only for 5 years. The 16 year old one is the conventional one that most bosses are based on(can be done solo, or in groups)

Nex is Life said:

Nothing is blocked off from solo attempts. There are just mechanics that require multiple people now.

I'll just let this be, and maybe if you stare at it long enough you'll figure out what you said is wrong.

Nex is Life said:

Nope, because no convention prior to EoC can be applied.

EoC only affected combat, how to enter a boss is not combat. it can be applied.

Nex is Life said:

The cap on the Rago starting damage was lowered to allow duo/trios.


Kcin said:

Ahh so they have figured out(again) group limited bosses = a bad idea because people want to solo them huh...

I wonder why they are changing all these group required things. Maybe its like they failed at what the community wanted. Hmmmmmm


You said it right here: Nex is Life said:

personal attack I posted
personal attack on me instead of on the argument. If it wasn't an ad hominem you wouldn't have personally attacked me at all.

But none of this still changes the fact that if you remove reaper from comp you still get a taste of bossing.
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16-Mar-2018 17:53:26 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2018 18:11:32 by Kcin

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Kcin said:
Nex is Life said:

is a fallacious argumentative strategy whereby an argument is rebutted by attacking the character

Wrong, it is a personal attack in place of actually looking at the argument. To bad you can't understand the definition.
Yes, you're right again! That's exactly what it means. I knew you'd get it if I spelled it out.

Now, go back to the last page where I called you out on condescendingly pasting dictionary definitions. Look right above that post and you'll see me responding to all your points with reasoned argument. I'm sure you saw it since you replied to it.
So you see, any kind of personal attack I posted was not "in place of actually looking at the argument.".
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16-Mar-2018 17:57:47

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Kcin said:
Saying copy paste is synonymous to saying exactly the same.

One has existed for 16 years, while the other has only for 5 years. The 16 year old one is the conventional one that most bosses are based on(can be done solo, or in groups)

Nex is Life said:

Nothing is blocked off from solo attempts. There are just mechanics that require multiple people now.

I'll just let this be, and maybe if you stare at it long enough you'll figure out what you said is wrong.

EoC only affected combat, how to enter a boss is not combat. it can be applied.

I wonder why they are changing all these group required things. Maybe its like they failed at what the community wanted. Hmmmmmm
No it isn't. Copying, pasting and changing one thing is still copy-pasting.

The 16 year old one doesn't exist now because this game isn't the same as it was 16 years ago.

KK and Rots have both been solo'd (by me btw). So there is reason for them to be open to solo attempts.

Actually fighting the boss is combat :)

Nothing was changed from being group required, none of the mechanics were changed. What the community actually wanted was Rago duo/trios since they became viable the entry hit became a pointless lockout.
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16-Mar-2018 18:28:46

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:

Copying, pasting and changing

Makes it not copy pasted and makes it a new thing. I could copy paste a whole book and change 1 chapter, doesn't make it the same book.

Nex is Life said:

The 16 year old one doesn't exist now

Man someone should go tell the KBD that is in game currently that he shouldn't exist anymore according to you.

Nex is Life said:

Actually fighting the boss is combat :)

Yeah so you admit entering the boss is not combat. Good to know you are contradicting yourself again. The fact that they have to change how a boss is entered shows that group bossing is not as popular as you think and solo bossing is much more.

Nex is Life said:

Nothing was changed from being group required.

Changing the amount of damage someone takes is changing how being forced into a group to split the damage is changing how it is required.

But again none of this still changes the fact that if you remove reaper from comp you still get a taste of bossing.
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16-Mar-2018 18:33:17 - Last edited on 16-Mar-2018 18:52:47 by Kcin

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Remove 120s from comp reqs please!
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16-Mar-2018 19:44:29

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Kcin said:
Makes it not copy pasted and makes it a new thing. I could copy paste a whole book and change 1 chapter, doesn't make it the same book.

Man someone should go tell the KBD that is in game currently that he shouldn't exist anymore according to you.

Yeah so you admit entering the boss is not combat. Good to know you are contradicting yourself again. The fact that they have to change how a boss is entered shows that group bossing is not as popular as you think and solo bossing is much more.

Changing the amount of damage someone takes is changing how being forced into a group to split the damage is changing how it is required.

But again none of this still changes the fact that if you remove reaper from comp you still get a taste of bossing.
Ok go publish that book.

How to you manage to take 2 and 2 and get 7 time and time again. A convention based on out of date source material does not exist. Why? Because it's a concept and concepts can cease to exist, but your malfunctioning brain somehow decides to take what I said out of context and apply it to something tangible.

Ok quote where I said entering bosses is combat. I'll be waiting.
But Rago is still a group boss, so how does this prove anything to do with solo bossing. The difference being that it's killed (mostly) in duos and trios instead of teams of 5+ now. This is because these small teams were not previously viable regardless of entry hit, you recieve the same number of drops amoung less people and a majority of the boss is timelocked. Thus smaller team sizes are more profitable and better pet chance.
And, whilst I do believe solo bossing is more popular, group bossing is also popular and a huge part of PvM.

By your logic you should only need one 99 because you have had a taste of skilling.
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16-Mar-2018 20:05:04

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Nex is Life said:
Ok go publish that book.

You do realize what you just said just makes you agree with my point right?

Nex is Life said:

A convention based on out of date source material does not exist.

Oh, so GWD2 bosses are out of date as well? They follow the same exact boss format as KBD and GWD1, any amount of people can enter and kill the boss. Not a minimum amount of people.

Nex is Life said:

Ok quote where I said entering bosses is combat.

Nex is Life said:
any number of players being able to defeat a boss is pre-EoC and therefore moot.

By even brining of Evolution of COMBAT in an argument about how you enter a boss room and saying its moot because of the evolution of COMBAT just shows you stating the entering the boss is combat.


Nex is Life said:

prove anything to do with solo bossing.

Same fact as with soul reaper. The community clearly doesn't like group bosses as much as people think the fact that they have to make them now so that people are able to solo them(removing the group minimum) shows that. So that is against your arguments that Group bossing is soooooo popular.

Nex is Life said:

By your logic you should only need one 99 because you have had a taste of skilling.

Correction: by your logic. You are the one saying that reaper gives you a taste of all bosses Nex is Life said:
having a taste of every boss
when Nex is Life said:
reaper is only 26 out of over 40 bosses.
So if 26 bosses gives the taste of bossing, 10 bosses (with increasing handicaps) should also give the taste of bossing.

But again none of this still changes the fact that if you remove reaper from comp you still
have to do some bossing.
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16-Mar-2018 21:51:56

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Kcin said:

You do realize what you just said just makes you agree with my point right?

Oh, so GWD2 bosses are out of date as well? They follow the same exact boss format as KBD

By even brining of Evolution of COMBAT in an argument about how you enter a boss room

The community clearly doesn't like group bosses as much as people think the fact that they have to make them now so that people are able to solo them(removing the group minimum) shows that.

You are the one saying that reaper gives you a taste of all bosses So if 26 bosses gives the taste of bossing, 10 bosses (with increasing handicaps) should also give the taste of bossing.

But again none of this still changes the fact that if you remove reaper from comp you still have to do some bossing.
No it doesn't. Please stop being autistic, 90% of legios are copy pasted from each other but of course you have to be pendantic and say oh there a minor difference - I KNOW.

Yes. That's 4 EoC bosses out of 14 (counting Legionaires as one). Very conventional.

So you're saying entering the boss room shoudn't be any different to how it was 10+ years ago because technically going through a door isn't combat?

Tonnes of people do like group bossing but keep pretending to talk for "the community" you don't know jack about.
They haven't changed any group boss to make it soloable. A few people had already done solo ROTS so Jagex removed the pointless entry requirement. Also, people only did that to prove they could not because they couldn't bear to team up.
KK was updated repeatedly to make it not soloable. Still is, but not the point.

I'm saying comp should require all bosses. If anything, I'm saying reaper is insufficient but better than nothing. So add stuff like Memory of Nomad too.
KBD with a minor handicap = PvM completed? lol

Not enough. All bosses. Just like you max all skills... and do all quests... deja vu....
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16-Mar-2018 23:13:54

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
No it doesn't. Please stop being ...

Ah another ad hominem, is that your go to?

Nex is Life said:

EoC

What part of Nex is Life said:

Ok quote where I said entering bosses is combat.
did you already forget you said? Combat doesn't have anything to do with entering a boss's room.

Nex is Life said:

So you're saying entering the boss room shoudn't be any different to how it was 10+

Players want things to be able to be soloed(or the option being there) look at soul reaper, look at rago's change. So the community is saying it.

Nex is Life said:

Tonnes of people do like group bossing

Group bosses are the minority here.

Nex is Life said:

They haven't changed any group boss to make it soloable.

Rago changed from having to tank 50k damage(impossible) to 12.5k damage(possible)

Nex is Life said:

I'm saying comp should require all bosses.

Removal of reaper wouldn't have an affect on that at all since not all bosses are on the comp anyway, so removing reaper's extras don't do anything that isn't already done to the cape. Besides weren't you just complaining that there are bosses that are "copy-paste".
Nex is Life said:
and do all quests

Yet you don't do all lore...

But I say it again and I will continue because you can't even come up with a reason because none of this changes the fact that if you remove reaper from comp you still have to do some bossing.
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16-Mar-2018 23:22:42

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Kcin said:
did you already forget you said? Combat doesn't have anything to do with entering a boss's room.

Players want things to be able to be soloed(or the option being there) look at soul reaper, look at rago's change. So the community is saying it.
Rago changed from having to tank 50k damage(impossible) to 12.5k damage(possible)

Removal of reaper wouldn't have an affect on that at all since not all bosses are on the comp anyway, so removing reaper's extras don't do anything that isn't already done to the cape. Besides weren't you just complaining that there are bosses that are "copy-paste".

But I say it again and I will continue because you can't even come up with a reason because none of this changes the fact that if you remove reaper from comp you still have to do some bossing.
"Combat doesn't have anything to do with entering a boss" OK.

LOL Vorago is still impossible to solo, the change was made to allow duo/trio teams. Kcin said:
When talking about a certain subject you do need to know what you are talking about.


It wasn't complaining that Legios were pasted, I said I understand why all 6 aren't required (they are tracked together) and that it doesn't really matter anyway.
Removal of reaper wouldn't have an affect on amount of bosses required? lol ok. Nex is Life said:
If anything, I'm saying reaper is insufficient but better than nothing.


But doing "some bossing" isn't be the requirement.
Or by this reasoning you should only need 50 in all stats because you still have to do "some skilling"
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17-Mar-2018 09:03:47 - Last edited on 17-Mar-2018 09:05:14 by Nex is Life

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