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PrimeáAxiom
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Kcin said:

I would also like to add on the point that reaper title is the 2nd most frustrating thing to get on comp, only behind Livid farm both being ahead by a good chunk.
There has to be a reason for that besides "people aren't good at pvm".(according to the survey which comp cape owners could answer)
While Quests, skills, and achievements rank higher overall for enjoyment on the cape. Comp capers clearly don't like bossing as much as the other 2 big areas of the game. As well on the survey the question about removing reaper, the major

Nope. The reason is exactly that. Most RuneScape players also prefer revolution and think Arraxor is top tier PVM. It is not inaccurate to say that most players are not good at PVM. Fortunately, being good at PVM bosses is NOT a requirement for comp. Reaper does not prove you are good at any boss. Reaper proves that you have managed to kill every boss just once.

31-Mar-2018 02:57:48 - Last edited on 31-Mar-2018 03:21:55 by PrimeáAxiom

Kcin
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PrimeáAxiom said:

The reason is exactly that.

yeah no.

PrimeáAxiom said:

Most RuneScape players also prefer revolution and think Arraxor is top tier PVM.

Just because you use Revolution doesn't mean you can't manual enter too so that has no actual bearing on combat abilities.

PrimeáAxiom said:

It is not inaccurate to say that most players are not good at PVM

Just like how it isn't inaccurate to say the majority of comp cape owners dislike Reaper being on the cape and want something done about it. Unlike yours which can be said is inaccurate as you have no data behind your statement. And please note that it is comp cape owners who say this not just people who are going for it.
People who have killed all the bosses do not like all the bosses as a req.


PrimeáAxiom said:
prove you are good at any boss.

Even more reason to remove it.

NexáisáLife said:
holy fk you

You added a lot to the conversation huh...
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31-Mar-2018 03:59:54 - Last edited on 01-Apr-2018 14:15:57 by Kcin

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NoobáKing said:
Netniet said:
NoobáKing said:
Netniet said:


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The 99 capes were initially tought to be too hard to get as well, yet now they are easy to get and theres even 120 capes. I feel like the mentality of today is that things in general are too hard, back in the day people weren't complaining about the diffculty, people were loving the difficulty curve of the game. This is Runescape, it's a grindfest of a game, it's always been that way. You can't just get everything by playing casually. If you want the comp cape you should have to work hard for it.

As i explained before, other requirements are not comparable with the Reaper requirement (Netniet, page 33). Getting to the completionist cape should indeed be a long and hard road, but when Jagex pushes the combat system to the very limit, the cape will only be available to the best 1% PVM-ers of the game. This way the completionist cape becomes a PVM cape and therefore surpassing it's initial goal (Netniet, page 33; Netniet, page 34). This requires a change in the requirements, regardless if people who already obtained this requirement like it or not.

31-Mar-2018 10:23:41 - Last edited on 31-Mar-2018 10:27:06 by Netniet

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Even if The Reaper title is removed from comp cape, you'd still have to enter group boss encounters for the music tracks, just like you need people for some of the mini-game tracks. Should Jagex revamp whole music track portion as well? I suppose they could just change it so solo players can just enter mini game lobbies or boss portholes and get tracks, but it may be a code thing since music tracks have always been part of comp requirements. They'd have to move the BA music track to lobby area because as it is now, you can't unlock it without getting to wave 10--which requires a total of 5 players--if people want all group related content gone from comp.

I dreaded the group bosses because I'm a solo player as well. But, I looked around and found people who take others to masses--for free--you just have to join their cc and do as they say so you don't inadvertently kill other players. But, aside from making it to the Yakamaru mirage phase, most tracks open at the beginning of the fight and you only need to hit boss once. If you die after that, it will stick tick off the kill requirement, though I'm not sure if it works that way for the kill at ROTS if you die, unless you're with experienced people who can finish them off. Team I was with not only takes people to masses and smaller groups for bossing, but they help teach if you find you enjoyed the group bossing--for free.

I don't understand why it's such a big deal to have the requirement on comp, but I suppose there could be fixes to take it off and make it so music tracks can be unlocked simply by just showing up. I'm older than most of you and have rheumatoid arthritis which means I'm slow on clicks and such, and I'm on a MAC computer, and I did it. So there is hope for those who don't think they can. :-)

31-Mar-2018 12:30:09

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Netniet said:
NoobáKing said:
Netniet said:
NoobáKing said:
Netniet said:


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(Removed my quote for space)

The 99 capes were initially tought to be too hard to get as well, yet now they are easy to get and theres even 120 capes. I feel like the mentality of today is that things in general are too hard, back in the day people weren't complaining about the diffculty, people were loving the difficulty curve of the game. This is Runescape, it's a grindfest of a game, it's always been that way. You can't just get everything by playing casually. If you want the comp cape you should have to work hard for it.

As i explained before, other requirements are not comparable with the Reaper requirement (Netniet, page 33). Getting to the completionist cape should indeed be a long and hard road, but when Jagex pushes the combat system to the very limit, the cape will only be available to the best 1% PVM-ers of the game. This way the completionist cape becomes a PVM cape and therefore surpassing it's initial goal (Netniet, page 33; Netniet, page 34). This requires a change in the requirements, regardless if people who already obtained this requirement like it or not.


I am in no way in the top 1% of pvm-ers, i'd say i'm probably towards the bottom of the % of the people with reaper, but i still have managed to do 180 yaka kills, 200 Vorago and 12 HM Vorago. If someone like me is able to do that, anyone who cares enough to get comp should be able to learn the bosses to do Reaper.
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31-Mar-2018 17:48:08

Idiotest
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IáKindaáFail said:
Remove Reaper from normal comp, but keep Morvran's challenge on there. It requires the player to fight all solo bosses, along with Araxxor. They can even add Telos on there for all I care. I just can't be bothered to team up with the toxic PvM community I always see. I'm even fine with duo'ing bosses, as I have a few friends who like PvM, but I could never do something like Vorago or Raids which require 9 strangers and, in some cases, voice chat. Comp cape should be a solo cape.

I agree with this.
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31-Mar-2018 22:21:46

BáIáLáLáY
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I'm comp pushing for 110all stats then 120 maybe who knows

I hate pvm soo this is how I at to do it

rago 100m leech

rots was 65m leech

full raid was 100m leech

nex 20m leech

nex aod did in j mod mass

kk was 20m
call me fake comp all you like but trust me I'm not the only one who cant do the team bossing

01-Apr-2018 01:28:26

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BáIáLáLáY said:
I'm comp pushing for 110all stats then 120 maybe who knows

I hate pvm soo this is how I at to do it

rago 100m leech

rots was 65m leech

full raid was 100m leech

nex 20m leech

nex aod did in j mod mass

kk was 20m
call me fake comp all you like but trust me I'm not the only one who cant do the team bossing
holy fk you got scammed hard
I've let people leech all of those for free
Can't believe anyone pays for Nex/KK

Divide all those by 7 wow
You'll get it when you deserve it.

01-Apr-2018 06:01:38

BáIáLáLáY
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NexáisáLife said:
BáIáLáLáY said:
I'm comp pushing for 110all stats then 120 maybe who knows

I hate pvm soo this is how I at to do it

rago 100m leech

rots was 65m leech

full raid was 100m leech

nex 20m leech

nex aod did in j mod mass

kk was 20m
call me fake comp all you like but trust me I'm not the only one who cant do the team bossing
holy fk you got scammed hard
I've let people leech all of those for free
Can't believe anyone pays for Nex/KK

Divide all those by 7 wow


that was the going price at the time sir

01-Apr-2018 15:00:52

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Idiotest said:
IáKindaáFail said:
Remove Reaper from normal comp, but keep Morvran's challenge on there. It requires the player to fight all solo bosses, along with Araxxor. They can even add Telos on there for all I care. I just can't be bothered to team up with the toxic PvM community I always see. I'm even fine with duo'ing bosses, as I have a few friends who like PvM, but I could never do something like Vorago or Raids which require 9 strangers and, in some cases, voice chat. Comp cape should be a solo cape.

I agree with this.


Suits me.

01-Apr-2018 15:09:25

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