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Daibhi
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Daibhi

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Smasherley said:

I totally agree, it does have the potential to please every side... But I know jagex, after over 12 years playing this game I know the majority will get the raw end of this deal and that the ex streamer mods that are improving comp were the problem in the first place. It was their improving of comp that created this in the first place.

Then we have this, this cba attitude to not add requirements to the cape post an update. to update achievements and fail to unify them with the capes. When this happens again because it will happen again, what then? they have to rework it again?

I dunno, I have no faith and trust in jagex. I think the issues infront of us are created by jagex themselves and think they wont update it to cater or their player base but the ex streamers trying to find ways to line the leech services community of hoardes of billions.


If that's the case then Jagex needs to recognize the benefit of keeping existing players already playing (and paying to play) the game further invested in the game after maxing due to how these capes work, which far outweighs the importance of pleasing these ex streamers ego's as it involves real money - not GP or their ego's.

I think, to avoid this happening again, Jagex needs to figure out a means of determining reasonable difficulty for the respective cape and never stray from it again when new content is added to the game. Anything that involves reaper, boss kills etc. should be on trim and things like I don't know.. reqs. that can only be done by a single player be on standard comp?

As for the stats issue they could have the respective cape reflect that. Standard comp can have, and in this hypothetical scenario should have, subpar stats to trimmed and the trimmed comp should have the best stats to reflect the difficulty in obtaining it while also rewarding those who do obtain it to set it apart from the standard comp.

05-Jan-2019 12:09:31

Nex is Life
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Smasherley said:
The best in slot argument is a load of bull.. MAX CAPE has almost the same stats. the difference is 300 lp bonus which comes from the reefwalker cape req.

Max cape is identical in that it holds 3 skill capes.

Comp just acts as a spirit cape/ardycape/firecape (having completed that content separately)

Trim gives nothing extra but fashionscape/flex

The hate for comp is so moronic
The only moronic thing here is what you wrote.
Max cape does not have "almost the same stats". The difference in damage is worth a whole other equipment slot - remember that comp cape is better than a T92 power body.
300HP bonus is huge and game changing at certain bosses (not that you would know).
The skillcapes' perks only matter for melee where having str cape perk alone would make a cape bis in most circumstances.

"Comp just acts as a spirit cape/..." Hello? Spirit cape is dank and underrated. How can you say comp JUST has these great effects?
Makes me cringe that right now there are comp capes without Spirit Capes attached.

All that said I agree with you that requirements shouldn't be held back because people cba to do them and there is nothing wrong locking bis behind such requirements.
Well if they do decide the only way to make comp what it should be instead of leaving stuff off is offering bis elsewhere then whatever that doesn't matter to me.

But yeah the stats and effects are a big difference.
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08-Jan-2019 12:24:33

Nex is Life
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Smasherley said:
Idiotest said:
Daibhi said:
This rework has a lot of potential to please both sides of the table here but I also suspect one of the reasons why this gets such an uproar is because, if changes are made namely to reaper etc., those who charge players who can't do that will lose out on probably billions.

This.

I dunno, I have no faith and trust in jagex. I think the issues infront of us are created by jagex themselves and think they wont update it to cater or their player base but the ex streamers trying to find ways to line the leech services community of hoardes of billions.
This is a pretty big problem. The best way to fix this would be to make the requirements non-leechable, both destroying the leech market and not making Comp even easier than the Max cape plus it is currently. And hey maybe we could actually use the Teamwork forums to make teams.
If you had to get 15 enrage stacks at BM/Yaka/AoD or 4 bomb/base drop chances at Rago you wouldn't really be leeching ;)
You'll get it when you deserve it.

08-Jan-2019 12:28:40

Nex is Life
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Daibhi said:
I think, to avoid this happening again, Jagex needs to figure out a means of determining reasonable difficulty for the respective cape and never stray from it again when new content is added to the game. Anything that involves reaper, boss kills etc. should be on trim and things like I don't know.. reqs. that can only be done by a single player be on standard comp?
You say Jagex need to figure out a means of determining difficultly for respective capes... Then you say x requirement should be on trim because you don't like it?

Here is what Jagex might use to determine what belongs on what cape - this came from Mod Breezy
T1: participate in all content
T2: complete all content (unless it's ridiculous)
T3: complete all content (even if it's ridiculous)


From that and the discussions it seems they are mostly interested in how long things take and what is defined as completion. Repeatable content is hard to define as "completed", but a meagre 1 kill of each boss certainly comes within "participation".
Additionally, it was stated that arguments of "Remove Reaper because RS pvm is too hard" aren't constructive.
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08-Jan-2019 13:05:53

Reaper Ghost
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Everything about your suggestions bum me out.

This is how it is, I have a comp cape and i put in the copious amount of work required for it and i deserve to reap the benefits from it. If you haven't done this you haven't completed the game and you deserve none of these benefits.

Making the comp cape less powerful or easier to obtain is like spitting in the face of those that have worked for it.

Here is how i see it, it's like if i built a house next door to you, i worked on this house for years, i put all my time and money into building it. When i finished the house and you saw it next door you were like, "His house is much nicer than mine and this is bull ****!"

You filed a petition with the city citing your complaints of how my house was nicer, and now for some dumb reason the city has decided i have to tear down parts of my house and make it less nice because of your complaints. They have also decided to award you a free house of equivalent value to mine and decided that you don't need to give any time or money to have this.

Quit complaining about how others have nicer stuff than you, this is how the world works. Put in the time and effort to get the nice stuff and quit crying about how others have nice things and you don't when YOU DON'T WANT TO WORK FOR THE NICE THINGS!

There are those who dream of success everyday, and then there are those who wake up and work hard everyday to achieve it. Now quit dreaming of nicer things, and either work hard for them or get out of the way of those who are!
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08-Jan-2019 15:44:26 - Last edited on 08-Jan-2019 18:23:49 by Reaper Ghost

Daibhi
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Nex is Life said:
You say Jagex need to figure out a means of determining difficultly for respective capes... Then you say x requirement should be on trim because you don't like it?

Here is what Jagex might use to determine what belongs on what cape - this came from Mod Breezy
T1: participate in all content
T2: complete all content (unless it's ridiculous)
T3: complete all content (even if it's ridiculous)


No.... why do you keep assuming I'm complaining about how it works because I "dont want" to do things I "don't like"?

I've already explained to you on the other comp thread (and in fact linked information that explains it all clearly on a page in this one) the definitions of these words have very clear differences in my particular situation there are none I "don't like" but there are some I literally cannot do due to irrefutable health reasons; not the basic excuse of "I don't like this so I don't want to do it, remove it" you seem to always get caught up on.

If the majority have to pay a group just to get reaper done every time something's added to it that's enough evidence to show that it's too hard for the playerbase in general, thus should be on the more appropriate cape's reqs. (trimmed) to reflect that capes difficulty; which will then increase its prestige at the same time.

If by participation it is literally just participation (which means completion is not required; just the act of participating in any form - otherwise it's completion and not participation Ref. the whole dance we had around the literal definition of the word completionist but just change it to those words) that sounds like a reasonable compromise.

T2 and T3 also sound like a step in the right direction, so long as it rewards those players reasonably well for going up and beyond the standard. What T2 gets should be subpar to T3 though and like wise in regards to T2 compared to T1.

T3 can let Ramen be the sadist he is.

08-Jan-2019 19:40:26

Nex is Life
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Daibhi said:
No.... why do you keep assuming I'm complaining about how it works because I "dont want" to do things I "don't like"?

I've already explained to you on the other comp thread (and in fact linked information that explains it all clearly on a page in this one) the definitions of these words have very clear differences in my particular situation there are none I "don't like" but there are some I literally cannot do due to irrefutable health reasons; not the basic excuse of "I don't like this so I don't want to do it, remove it" you seem to always get caught up on.
So the game should revolve around one person?
You'll get it when you deserve it.

08-Jan-2019 20:17:33

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