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Kcin
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Nex is Life said:

Ironmen have access to group content.

They are restricted from the multiplayer aspect so therefore not everything has to have the multiplayer aspect. If there wasn't interest in solo content that wouldn't exist.

Nex is Life said:

Regardless

If i can be soloed it has a place on a solo piece of content requirements, if it requires a group it has no place being a req for a solo piece of content. Comp cape already leaves out a ton of stuff in the game so what is so wrong about leaving out group bosses? What is the difference between leaving group bosses out of comp cape and leaving out the castle wars req.

Nex is Life said:

It's unwillingness.

No its logic. It makes no sense for solo content to be locked behind a group. Jagex has recognized this in the fact they made group bosses toggleable on the soul reaper.
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04-Mar-2018 22:20:53 - Last edited on 04-Mar-2018 22:25:27 by Kcin

Zparanoid
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And while we're all at it, remove from comp cape requirements:

The lvl 99 combat stat requirements, they are unfair to lvl 3 skillers.
Anything that entails equipping a piece of armor, they are unfair to pures.
Any quest that doesn't have a boss fight in it, they are unfair to PVMers
Any content that takes place outside of the wilderness, they are unfair to pkers.
The music unlocks, they are unfair to players that play with audio switched off.

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04-Mar-2018 22:24:09

Cinamyn

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Literally go to the Teamwork forum and say "Can anyone help get at least 1 kill on a couple group bosses". Add each other in game "Hi, you ready to go"
Kill the things. You are done.

At least you're not getting Trim where you need to arrange a TEAM of people for Castle Wars or Barbarian Assault. I'll wait for your next thread when you start going for Trim demanding solo minigames.

04-Mar-2018 22:38:55

Nex is Life
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Zparanoid said:

Speaking as someone who isn't a specialist PVMer, but does enjoy the occasional bit of endgame combat content, I think that the Reaper title on comp cape is beneficial to the game, and serves an important role in the player path of progression through the game.

And players that straight up refuse to participate in any group content (for whatever reason), are intentionally limiting themselves. In that sense they are a player-defined class (call it 'strictly solo'), in a similar way that lvl 3 skillers or 1 defence pures are player-defined
classes. I don't think that the game should be changed to accommodate their self-imposed limitations.

Exactly this. Some people might do their one kill and never come back, others will enjoy it and go on to do more PvM. There is no reason to close off part of the game to people when it helps the game grow, by giving players a reason to open doors that might otherwise be left closed.
It's down to choice and unwillingness that people don't do group bosses.
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04-Mar-2018 22:39:43

Nex is Life
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Kcin said:

They are restricted from the multiplayer aspect so therefore not everything has to have the multiplayer aspect. If there wasn't interest in solo content that wouldn't exist.

If i can be soloed it has a place on a solo piece of content requirements, if it requires a group it has no place being a req for a solo piece of content. Comp cape already leaves out a ton of stuff in the game so what is so wrong about leaving out group bosses? What is the difference between leaving group bosses out of comp cape and leaving out the castle wars req.

No its logic. It makes no sense for solo content to be locked behind a group. Jagex has recognized this in the fact they made group bosses toggleable on the soul reaper.

Not everything has to be solo content either. Also you're talking like I'm against solo content, which isn't true.
Again the ironman argument is dumb because they can do group bosses and minigames. Also group ironman mode is coming out soon tm ;)

At the end of the day, there is going to be group content in an MMO. Of course there's lots of soloable stuff and personal achievement. But if you can't stand playing with other people, this is the wrong genre for you.

Who decided comp was solo content again?
To "complete" a multiplayer game you need to play with other players... colour me shocked.

It's your unwillingness that stops you from doing this content. There is no barrier. You didn't even respond to what I said there remotely in context.
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04-Mar-2018 22:48:44

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:

Not everything has to be solo content either.

No one is saying that, what people are saying is keep solo content to solo only reqs.

Nex is Life said:

Again the ironman argument is dumb

The quote to defend or promote anything on comp cape is dumb because there is no guidline. Why does group bosses get on comp but not mqc requirements, why do minigames get left out while those are part of the game. Etc etc. There is no sound reason to keep group bosses on comp cape while there is plenty of things that aren't reqs.

Nex is Life said:

At the end of the day, there is going to be group content in an MMO.

And that should never block someone from being able to play solo for all the solo content(comp cape included)

Nex is Life said:

Who decided comp was solo content again?

Get back to me on that when you get multiple people to wear the cape you own and not their own.
Nex is Life said:

It's your unwillingness that stops you from doing this content.

I do like how you are unwilling to respond or even look at the fact that Jagex realizes group bosses are a screw up for solo content(soul reaper)
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04-Mar-2018 23:03:14

Nex is Life
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Kcin said:
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No one is saying that, what people are I am saying is keep solo content to solo only reqs.

The quote to defend or promote anything on comp cape is dumb because there is no guidline.

Get back to me on that when you get multiple people to wear the cape you own and not their own.

I do like how you are unwilling to respond or even look at the fact that Jagex realizes group bosses are a screw up for solo content(soul reaper)

But comp isn't a solo only req. Who said it was? You're aiming to "complete" an MMO and team play is a part of that.

So a requirement you don't like should be taken off because other things aren't on there? Hmm, prestiging camel warrior kills isn't a comp req, guess we should take fishing off too.
But those AoD books are required for MQC, along with all other lore book drops. MQC does actually have guidelines. You're saying comp has no guidelines, so take requirements you don't like off and it should be solo content only because... because you say it should be.

So I guess all the minigames should be taken off Trim because other people can't wear your Trim cape?
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The reaper title is a one time thing. Soul Reaper is a daily activity. Getting one kill in each group boss is not a lot to task for, but finding a team every day for various bosses could be annoying if you don't have friends who PvM. It's an option for people like you, not the standard, having a toggle there does not mean group bosses aren't a part of the game. Additionally, lower levels can do soul reaper, who want kbd/giant mole type tasks, may not have the stats to stand up to strong group bosses. Most high level solo/soloable bosses have entry requirements those low levels won't have, but KK, ROTS, Rago do not.

It's entirely your choice to only play solo and there is nothing physically stopping you doing group bosses.
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05-Mar-2018 01:00:51

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:

But comp isn't a solo only req. Who said it was?

Kcin said:

Get back to me on that when you get multiple people to wear the cape you own and not their own.


Nex is Life said:

So a requirement you don't like should be taken off because other things aren't on there?

No a requirement that makes no sense there shouldn't be. Group content shouldn't block solo content. Why should group bossing be on comp when castle wars or penance king isn't. Why should reaper be for comp when lock stock and barrel isn't(t10 meno rep) or the kalgerion titles. etc etc.

Nex is Life said:

So I guess all the minigames should be taken off Trim

Yet this isnt about trim comp

Nex is Life said:

The reaper title is a one time thing. Soul Reaper is a daily activity.

That is a very poor argument. Finding a team for various bosses could be annoying if you don't have friends who PvM. It's an option for people like you, not the standard, having a toggle there does not mean group bosses aren't a part of the game. Additionally, who want kbd/giant mole type tasks, may not have the stats to stand up to strong group bosses. Most high level solo/soloable bosses have entry requirements those low levels won't have, but KK, ROTS, Rago do not.

Why isn't the champ challenge on comp cape if reaper is. Why is reaper so important to comp cape that you are so up in arms trying to defend it when there is a plethora of reasons why it is an arbitrary requirement that can easily be removed and replaced. Why isn't Hard as daemons, why isn't nomad's mirage, why isn't diary of oreb, or the history of slayer. The list goes on and on.
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