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Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
Doing every boss is not.

Yet you can leech them and you can't leech Nomad so who is the more of a challenge and true show.
Its Nomad


Nex is Life said:

wtf when was this added to the game

Nice show of how comp is most of the game when you don't know a simple teleport in a part of a big expansion of the game.

Nex is Life said:

I'm not the one arguing that comp is exclusively for completing the story when it isn't.
I'm not either, im simply showing that comp isn't a comp cape so you shouldn't act like it. Reaper has no more place on comp than finding all the lore.


Nex is Life said:

It has a good reason to be there, not random at all.

Then why aren't the others that fit that exact reason not on. It is Kcin said:

based on random choice or
personal whim
, rather than any reason or system
."



Nex is Life said:

Harmony moss, what??

Keep proving that point of comp cape isn't completionist.

Nex is Life said:

Replacing with an easier requirement is devaluing.

Oh god leeching is soooooo hard.

Nex is Life said:

Saying something is proven does not make it so.

Yet I have proven it.

Nex is Life said:

Clearly, reaper brings a challenge to the table, or people would not be whining for it to be removed.

Yep leeching, super hard, super challenging. Nomad solo content that is challenging no on. Something seems off with that argument. People are complaining that its on comp cape because
it is group content.
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09-Mar-2018 01:14:01 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 01:17:22 by Kcin

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Kcin said:

Yet you can leech them and you can't leech Nomad so who is the more of a challenge and true show. Its Nomad

Nice show of how comp is most of the game when you don't know a simple teleport in a part of a big expansion of the game.

I'm not either, im simply showing that comp isn't a comp cape so you shouldn't act like it. Reaper has no more place on comp than finding all the lore.

Then why aren't the others that fit that exact reason not on.

Keep proving that point of comp cape isn't completionist.

Oh god leeching is soooooo hard.

Nomad solo content that is challenging no on. Something seems off with that argument. People are complaining that its on comp cape because it is group content.
But you still can't do it somehow

I guarantee that teleport did not come out with Mazcab+Raids, but 1 year+ later. Apparently I unlocked it at some point. But go be a dick about my not knowing one newly added teleport spell there is almost no reason to use.

So what cape is it in your opinion? The solo content only loner cape? And don't give me the pendantic "it's not literally completing everything" line, what is it?

The Reefwalker is there because it's stats are added to comp. What other capes aren't on comp that meet that exact reason other than Spirit Cape?

What exactly are you saying about Harmony Moss? You just said "also Harmony Moss" and that was it...

Too hard for you it seems

You already fight nomad in the quest anyway so it is on comp.
Group content is a part of the game. Get over it.
And some others are complaining because they can't do it.
You'll get it when you deserve it.

09-Mar-2018 03:26:40 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 03:28:44 by Nex is Life

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
But you still can't do it somehow

Can't do it more like don't wanna deal with the elitists when trying to find a group(you might say your kind but how you're talking is full elitist talk) MQC is my goal, the cape that is closer to completionist.

Nex is Life said:

I guarantee that teleport did not come out with Mazcab+Raids

Doesn't excuse not knowing about it if you are going to act like comp cape is a completionist cape. Not being a dick just pointing out flaws in your arguments.

Nex is Life said:

So what cape is it in your opinion?

The cape as it is, is just a cape with a few reqs it has no actual meaning since the reqs for it have no meaning towards the cape. It can't be considered a completionist cape, its more of a rag tag cape in the current state. With the removal of reaper and the addition of other reqs they have the chance to make it an actual completionist cape that you can get by completing the game without the need for forced groups. My opinion of course.

Nex is Life said:

The Reefwalker is there because it's stats are added to comp.

The states came after the unlock the reefwalker is not a req for because of the stats it is an unlock because it is part of ports, so are the other scrolls and therefore if there was reason to it the other scrolls would be on.

Nex is Life said:

What exactly are you saying about Harmony Moss?

Requirement that shortened from 200(i think that was the number) down to 50. Why? Because the community thought that 200 was to much just like the community thinks group bosses are to much for the comp cape.

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Too hard for you it seems

Already explained that, the leeching part isn't hard at all. Dealing with the stuck ups like you who think they are so great because they did a group boss.(cont)
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09-Mar-2018 03:45:54 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 03:46:12 by Kcin

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Or the other group same mindset but who let others on for the sole purpose of bragging and saying they aren't elitist because they allowed x person to leech off them.

Nex is Life said:

You already fight nomad in the quest anyway so it is on comp.
Group content is a part of the game. Get over it.
And some others are complaining because they can't do it.

Post quest fight isn't the in quest fight. Also by that logic that all quests featuring Nomad as a boss past Nomad's requiem shouldn't be a comp req because you already fought nomad once so it is on comp already.
A small part of the game. Get over it.
Just like some people are complaining because they want to feel all high and mighty that they did it?
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Kcin said:
Or the other group same mindset but who let others on for the sole purpose of bragging and saying they aren't elitist because they allowed x person to leech off them.

Post quest fight isn't the in quest fight. Also by that logic that all quests featuring Nomad as a boss past Nomad's requiem shouldn't be a comp req because you already fought nomad once so it is on comp already.
A small part of the game. Get over it.
Just like some people are complaining because they want to feel all high and mighty that they did it?
I like helping others, guess you wouldn't understand since you refuse to team up with anyone.
Nice ad hominem


It's not the quest fight? I thought it was a replay.

But a part of the game nonetheless. How important it is to each person is a matter of opinion.

Oh nice more ad hominem

I don't feel high and mighty because it's not actually hard at all. But why baby people and lower the goalposts? Suck it up, I'm not crying to remove gathering skills, bones to peaches, Arc unlocks and other requirements I find unbearable from comp. The whole point of a goal is that it shouldn't be easy. It's about the journey not the reward. And if it is about the reward, then the harder it is, the better getting it will feel.
You'll get it when you deserve it.

09-Mar-2018 04:10:46 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 04:11:00 by Nex is Life

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Kcin said:

Can't do it more like don't wanna deal with the elitists when trying to find a group

Doesn't excuse not knowing about it if you are going to act like comp cape is a completionist cape. Not being a dick just pointing out flaws in your arguments.

It can't be considered a completionist cape, its more of a rag tag cape in the current state.

The states came after the unlock the reefwalker is not a req for because of the stats it is an unlock because it is part of ports, so are the other scrolls and therefore if there was reason to it the other scrolls would be on.

Requirement that shortened from 200(i think that was the number) down to 50. Why? Because the community thought that 200 was to much just like the community thinks group bosses are to much for the comp cape.
So 100% of the PvM commuinity are elitists. Got it. Me? Whiners annoy me. I don't find fault with someone being new to PvM, not knowing anything or not having gear. But if they don't learn, if they refuse to learn... I don't want to or have to help anymore and I will call them bad at the game.

But you are being a dick, and no, not knowing about a newly added and unimportant unlock doesn't hurt my argument. And no I didn't say comp cape meant literal total completion.

Removing requirements makes it more "rag tag".

Sup Reefwalker has the best in slot HP and armour boost. Comp shares these exact stats. Anyone with a brain can put 2 and 2 together and realise it's not randomly chosen from ports.

Reducing a time gated requirement is not the same as a removing a requirement. You've proven you can harvest Harmony Moss (its very hard) so harvesting 150 more is somewhat needless. Now if 200 kills in each boss were the requirement, I would support reducing that.
You'll get it when you deserve it.

09-Mar-2018 04:28:37 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 04:31:58 by Nex is Life

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
I like helping others, guess you wouldn't understand since you refuse to team up with anyone.
Nice ad hominem

It aint an ad hominem never directed it at you, just stating why people don't like/don't even bother with going for group bosses.
Alex, can I get What is humble?


Nex is Life said:

It's not the quest fight? I thought it was a replay.

No, it is not the quest fight, it is a hard version of the quest fight no checkpoint, no interludes. From the wiki "The Memory of Nomad is essentially a Hard mode version of the fight in Nomad's Elegy. Most of the mechanics are the same as in the normal fight and there are a few additional mechanics, especially in the final phase."

Nex is Life said:

But a part of the game nonetheless.

Reaper has no more right to be on comp than all the left out reqs. Group content doesn't have the right to block solo content. You keep crying that its group content its a group game. If its a group game why are minigames dead, why is solo content thriving, why are group bosses hated by many?

Nex is Life said:

Oh nice more ad hominem

Again not an ad hominem because it wasn't directed at you, just a statement of observations. But if you wanna put yourself in that group again by all means go ahead.

Nex is Life said:

I don't feel high and mighty because it's not actually hard at all.

Then why do you keep going on and go about how hard it is, why it is so hard that it deserves to be on comp to make comp so hard. If you admit it is so hard then there is no harm removing it from comp because it won't make it easier if it is already easy. Pick a side, its either hard or not.
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09-Mar-2018 04:30:39 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 04:32:14 by Kcin

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Nex is Life said:
But why baby people and lower the goalposts? Suck it up, I'm not crying to remove gathering skills, bones to peaches, Arc unlocks and other requirements I find unbearable from comp. The whole point of a goal is that it shouldn't be easy. It's about the journey not the reward. And if it is about the reward, then the harder it is, the better getting it will feel.


But why actually do what the people and remove the thing the community doesn't want on comp(group bosses)? Suck it up, I'm not crying to remove gathering skills, bones to peaches, Arc unlocks and other requirements that aren't forcing groups. The whole point of comp cape is that it should have reasonable requirements. It's about the journey not the reward. And if it is about the reward, then the more reasonable it is, the better getting it will feel.

In your own words reaper isn't a hard requirement for comp cape.
Nex is Life said:

it's not actually hard at all.
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09-Mar-2018 04:30:43 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2018 04:32:04 by Kcin

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Kcin said:
But why actually do what the people and remove the thing the community doesn't want on comp(group bosses)? Suck it up, I'm not crying to remove gathering skills, bones to peaches, Arc unlocks and other requirements that aren't forcing groups. The whole point of comp cape is that it should have reasonable requirements. It's about the journey not the reward. And if it is about the reward, then the more reasonable it is, the better getting it will feel.

In your own words reaper isn't a hard requirement for comp cape.
I guess you speak for "the community". The same community that kills tens of thousands of group bosses every day.

No, I'm pretty sure the harder it is, the better getting it will feel.

It's not hard. But it has people crying it's too hard. So it should be on there.
You'll get it when you deserve it.

09-Mar-2018 04:38:28

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
So 100% of the PvM commuinity are elitists. Got it. Me? Whiners annoy me. I don't find fault with someone being new to PvM, not knowing anything or not having gear. But if they don't learn, if they refuse to learn... I don't want to or have to help anymore and I will call them bad at the game.

So 100% of the PvM commuinity are elitists. Got it. Me? Whiners annoy me. I don't find fault with someone being old to PvM, having done the boss from day one. But if they don't let others learn, if they refuse to let them on the team because they don't have bis... I don't want to or have to deal with them anymore and I will call them out on it.

Nex is Life said:

But you are being a dick

I didn't call you anything, I didn't direct anything at you, it isn't my fault if you feel you fall into that category.

Nex is Life said:

and no, not knowing about a newly added

Yet someone who has a comp cape should have knowledge of the game and its updates.

Nex is Life said:

Removing requirements makes it more "rag tag".

It isn't rag tag as it is with the thrown together requirements with the requirements that make no sense to have left off when there are things on it similar in nature? This is their chance to revamp comp remove the group content off comp cape, add in requirements that make sense, and actually make it a uniform requirement cape.
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