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Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
It was an attempt at that argument.

Actually I used your argument of copy-paste. As you can tell it worked out well because of how upset you got because it was so absurd to you.

Nex is Life said:

I suggest you update to the lastest version of Oxford's English dictionary. You will find Pendantic under Pendant.

So were you trying to go for this then:
"pe·dan·tic
pəˈdan(t)ik/Submit
adjective
of or like a pedant." Because that is so much more ludicrous than I initially thought.
Also Pendantic, doesn't exist as a word. Not in oxford, dictionary.com, Merriam.
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18-Mar-2018 20:28:23

Nex is Life
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Kcin said:

Actually I used your argument of copy-paste. As you can tell it worked out well because of how upset you got because it was so absurd to you.

So were you trying to go for this then:
"pe·dan·tic
pəˈdan(t)ik/Submit
adjective
of or like a pedant." Because that is so much more ludicrous than I initially thought.
Also Pendantic, doesn't exist as a word. Not in oxford, dictionary.com, Merriam.
You mean you baited me into responding because it was so fallacial and wrong.

If only your vocabulary extended beyond typing a word into google...
Odd it's right here?
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/pedantic
[puh-dan-tik]
1. ostentatious in one's learning.
2. overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, especially in teaching.

The italic being my use of the word.
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18-Mar-2018 21:19:37

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:

Odd it's right here?

Odd, you were misspelling it:Nex is Life said:

Pendantic

Nex is Life said:
pendantic

Nex is Life said:
Pe
n
dantic


But again, when you are talking about walking, stating walking in the argument that walking isn't combat isn't pedantic at all.

I didn't bait you into anything. I used a reductio ad absurdum argument against you, it wasn't my fault your own logic made you upset.

But we diverge from the original topic.
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18-Mar-2018 22:02:13 - Last edited on 18-Mar-2018 22:11:09 by Kcin

EllingerMain
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This topic was a big discussion 3 1/2 years ago when this comp cape req was actually still new and the topic of discussion, along with all of the req being added in elf city around the same time (including Rush of Blood). The discussions were basically like beating a dead horse and Jagex refused to change their stance. So...

Nothing has still changed 3 1/2 years later, why are we beating the skeleton of a dead horse all of a sudden? Not to sound rude or anything.

I am posting this because I was one of the upset people that lost their comp cape for good in 2014 because of the update so the wound is still there. Not just because I refused to boss but was also because of elf city being added along with all of the ridiculous amount of elf city comp req being added. I feel it wasn't a good move on their part to release so many big changes for comps all at once.

In conclusion (and to be blunt I guess) you just have to learn to adapt to the new game or move on. Jagex didn't revert EoC despite all of the negative feedback as an example. In the end it's their final decision on what they choose to do with their game. It's a good thing Oldschool Runescape was there for me to fall back on, along with many others.

18-Mar-2018 22:20:36

Kcin
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EllingerMain said:

Nothing has still changed 3 1/2 years later, why are we beating the skeleton of a dead horse all of a sudden? Not to sound rude or anything.


The reason the discussion came back up is from what OP posted Jagex said
Lord Kylle said:
As late as todays runescape survey twitch stream, the jmods were struggling to come up with the perfect solution to the future of the comp cape's overall idea, and admitted there might be no solution to make everybody happy.

With reaper being the biggest issue they are seeming to face.
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18-Mar-2018 22:36:01

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EllingerMain said:
This topic was a big discussion 3 1/2 years ago when this comp cape req was actually still new and the topic of discussion, along with all of the req being added in elf city around the same time (including Rush of Blood). The discussions were basically like beating a dead horse and Jagex refused to change their stance. So...

Nothing has still changed 3 1/2 years later, why are we beating the skeleton of a dead horse all of a sudden? Not to sound rude or anything.

I am posting this because I was one of the upset people that lost their comp cape for good in 2014 because of the update so the wound is still there. Not just because I refused to boss but was also because of elf city being added along with all of the ridiculous amount of elf city comp req being added. I feel it wasn't a good move on their part to release so many big changes for comps all at once.

In conclusion (and to be blunt I guess) you just have to learn to adapt to the new game or move on. Jagex didn't revert EoC despite all of the negative feedback as an example. In the end it's their final decision on what they choose to do with their game. It's a good thing Oldschool Runescape was there for me to fall back on, along with many others.


Haven't you heard RS3 is easy.

19-Mar-2018 03:21:59

EllingerMain
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I found the survey stream the OP mentioned and had no idea there was actually an in-depth 4 min. discussion regarding "The Reaper" title being removed as a comp cape req. I assumed it was just an idea the OP came up with to remove the title, having no context that the stream actually discussed the title itself.

Now that I have bridged the two together and my confusion has cleared up, I apologize for my blunt previous posting. However, I am still confused as to why (after all this time) Jagex is just now wanting to address this problem again out of the blue?

19-Mar-2018 06:48:33

Nex is Life
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Kcin said:
But we diverge from the original topic.
Yes if you could respond to my posts instead of pointing out my spelling we could have a discussion.

EllingerMain said:
owever, I am still confused as to why (after all this time) Jagex is just now wanting to address this problem again out of the blue?
Because of Solak. Allegedly it's going to be super difficult and kill everyone and be impossible.
My expectations are low.

But any discussion about reaper potentionally being removed descends into people who can't kill existing bosses complaining.
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19-Mar-2018 17:00:27

Kcin
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Nex is Life said:
Yes if you could respond to my posts instead of pointing out my spelling we could have a discussion.

You are the one who derailed it, I've been answering all things you've said about the OP. Not my fault you ignore what proves you wrong.

Nex is Life said:
Because of Solak.

From what the OP has said their discussion isn't only because of Solak, they want to make bosses that only the top of the top can do.
Lord Kylle said:

The reason the jmods are taking this up now on live streams, is that they say they wanna create even harder bosses in time, targeted at the top 5 % pvm'ers in game
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19-Mar-2018 17:55:40 - Last edited on 19-Mar-2018 17:56:57 by Kcin

Nex is Life
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Kcin said:
You are the one who derailed it, I've been answering all things you've said about the OP. Not my fault you ignore what proves you wrong.

From what the OP has said their discussion isn't only because of Solak, they want to make bosses that only the top of the top can do.
Lord Kylle said:

The reason the jmods are taking this up now on live streams, is that they say they wanna create even harder bosses in time, targeted at the top 5 % pvm'ers in game
Sure I went as off topic as you, but you've ignored most the things I said and instead cherry picked quotes out of context or responded with fallacies.
Now we can argue about that, or...

Yes, the reason reaper could be removed is because Solak (and more after Solak) will supposedly be endgame content that pushes and challenges the best players and is too hard for most people. Now I have my doubts about Jagex living up that based on past experiences, but that isn't relevant.

As reaper is on comp currently they must believe that existing bosses, including group bosses, are a reasonable requirement.
Group bosses are not unconventional (not sure how "walking isn't combat" refutes that?) they are a part of the game and always have been and there is no reason they shouldn't be on comp, clearly Jagex think that too, their concern being that new bosses (the next one which happens to be a group boss) will be too hard.

We've seen enrage mechanics as with Telos and Rax to keep endgame bosses open to everyone whilst making them more difficult to dedicated PvMers and it seems Jagex have changed direction. I expect we'd still see weaker future bosses everyone can do too.

My expectations are low, but if they do pull off supremely strong bosses I would support taking reaper off comp, limiting it to older/weaker bosses, or replacing it with other PvM requrements.
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19-Mar-2018 19:31:46 - Last edited on 19-Mar-2018 19:34:08 by Nex is Life

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