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Boldly Rule
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Just putting it out there: Allow group bosses to be soloed w death touch dart for 1 kill for comp kc. Darts are 5 mil and it takes time to acquire enough darts for all phases of each boss.

03-Apr-2018 16:56:08

Qwis7
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Boldly Rule said:
Just putting it out there: Allow group bosses to be soloed w death touch dart for 1 kill for comp kc. Darts are 5 mil and it takes time to acquire enough darts for all phases of each boss.


Its way better to keep it like this then.
Just remove the non solo able bosses form the list and keep the solo able once of the list.

People that do not agree with this basically make money form selling boss kills and see a money making methode dying in my opinion.

03-Apr-2018 19:10:51

Kcin
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Qwis7 said:

People that do not agree with this basically make money form selling boss kills and see a money making methode dying in my opinion.


This.

The only reason why someone would want to keep the group bosses on is so they can sell their leeches. Without the bosses being required they would lose their leech money. Any attempt that says keep them just because of difficulty don't realize leeching is the equivalent of it not being on the cape in the first place. Take out the middleman already.

Comp owners have spoken and why aren't people listening(specially those who have been in this thread saying poll the compers...)
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03-Apr-2018 19:43:39 - Last edited on 03-Apr-2018 20:41:43 by Kcin

Boldly Rule
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Kcin said:
Qwis7 said:

People that do not agree with this basically make money form selling boss kills and see a money making methode dying in my opinion.


This.

The only reason why someone would want to keep the group bosses on is so they can sell their leeches. Without the bosses being required they would lose their leech money. Any attempt that says keep them just because of difficulty don't realize leeching is the equivalent of it not being on the cape in the first place. Take out the middleman already.

Comp owners have spoken and why aren't people listening(specially those who have been in this thread saying poll the compers...)


There is more than one way to skin a cat and darting a boss is pretty exciting even if you get no drops or you are allowed to do it only once. Just saying. You can get the music track as well. There could be some humorous dialogue during "the encounter" since pvmers take themselves a bit too seriously at times and the game is supposed to be mostly for fun.

04-Apr-2018 01:36:48 - Last edited on 04-Apr-2018 22:07:10 by Boldly Rule

Kcin
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Boldly Rule said:

There is more than one way to skin a cat and darting a boss is pretty exciting even if you get no drops or you are allowed to do it only once. Just saying. You can get the music track as well.


Kcin said:

I would also like to add on the point that reaper title is the 2nd most frustrating thing to get on comp, only behind Livid farm both being ahead by a good chunk.... As well on the survey the question about removing reaper, the majority ~60% wanted it removed or something done to it(top-end bosses).


Not saying your idea is a bad one, but Comp capers don't like this req on the cape(as it is) and if you are going to go through the work of making an insta kill dart work for a boss kill then it is easier to just remove the req. Since they are the same concept.
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04-Apr-2018 02:58:17 - Last edited on 04-Apr-2018 19:27:59 by Kcin

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In my opinion: The concept of completionist is a sound one which aims at rewarding dedication to all game areas, however implementation is flawed with complaints of various requirements.

The main issues seem to be it having best stats in game but needing the reaper title for normal comp and the hours required from certain minigames for trim.

The suggestion: (master) capes of distinction in different areas of game, this matches the benefits of the capes with method of obtaining them.

(Master) combat cape : cb stats + Pvm achievements (refer to 3a's post on comp cape) - best stats for cape slot, perhaps upgraded by 1 stat point for every boss killed? hp and pray bonus can be scaled too.

(Master) skiller cape : all non-cb skill maxed (all 120) holds perks

(Master) gamer cape, gives benefits in minigames (minigames requirements from current trim/comp can go here)

Master quest cape, already here, but could maybe give the player extra lore from npc's

Master d&d cape...? dunno what perk this would have

Maybe even a title go with each cape (reaper, skiller specialist, pro gamer, easily distracted whatever)

Then after you've got all of those master capes, you are eligible for the completionist cape, the completionist cape shouldn't have specific requirements, rather it should just require you to hold all (master) capes of distinction.
So distinguished in all areas= comp, master in all areas = trim

This will give due meaning to completion as you have to be proficient at all aspects to be a completionist. The trim would demonstrate you have gone above and beyond just completion.
The problem people have with minigames taking too long:
1 It's very afk for long reqs
2 it's trimmed comp, it's suppose to be super rare, not something you grind out in 2 weeks.

05-Apr-2018 19:52:11

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Partial support, I mean a comp player should at least be able to do all solo bosses. Group bossing, I agree can be an issue (they either don't allow learners, ask that you have the best of the best armour and weapons, don't like your styles and kick you out or anything). I don't think that comp should go without solo bosses done, and I believe that having the group bosses should allow the full extent of the cape.

05-Apr-2018 20:17:17

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Kcin said:

People that do not agree with this basically make money form selling boss kills and see a money making methode dying in my opinion.


Some group bossing clans may very well want to keep reaper on comp to make money, but your statement unfairly condemns anyone who prefers the requirement to stay as is. Some people just go with the flow and don't feel the need to protest every single decision. It's not necessarily because we agree with Jagex's decision, we just don't sweat things like this because it's not a big deal--and I don't make a dime for feeling that way, nor do I have a bossing clan to sell leeches. I sought out a group bossing clan that didn't charge me a dime because they genuinely like to help other players achieve their goals. Everyone can do the same if they choose to do so. I'm happy to have the comp cape now, and happy to know I will keep it whether reaper stays on comp or not.

08-Apr-2018 12:56:38 - Last edited on 08-Apr-2018 12:57:05 by SandyHorizon

Kcin
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SandyHorizon said:

Some group bossing clans may very well want to keep reaper on comp to make money, but your statement unfairly condemns anyone who prefers the requirement to stay as is.

What reason other than money would there be to keep it as it is? Leeching is effectively not having the boss on the req anyway.

SandyHorizon said:

Some people just go with the flow and don't feel the need to protest every single decision. It's not necessarily because we agree with Jagex's decision, we just don't sweat things like this because it's not a big deal

In that case it wouldn't be a big deal for this group of people to accept the change.

Also the argument "I had to do it so others can do it" is a terrible argument to use in order to keep something the way it is. If all decisions followed that logic all skills would still be less than 10k xp/hr.
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