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Both games will be dead within 3 years at this rate. 1 can't live without the other. 1 game is mxtscape and the other is botscape. Neither work for anyone. We get a total of around 95k total players a day for both games 35-38k in rs3 57-60k in osrs. If you subtract 95k from the number of bots in both games it's a bad sign. Most of these bots are osrs. What do you do once no one wants to buy xp anymore?

05-Oct-2017 15:02:35

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Blackwing said:
Acra said:
Support, I've been a major participant of TH over the years and I'd love to see it gone. However, I don't see it leaving as it generates a lot more revenue than monthly membership cost.

Edit: If they did remove it they'd have to substitute something else and that could be worse.

That's false, actually; Jagex's financial statements prove that membership revenue is much greater (almost 20 million £) than microtransaction revenue, as you can see here:



You can find the statements on the Companies House website, and even though we don't yet have the statement for 2017, you have to remember that the MTX situation was already outright terrible in 2016 and even in 2015, so you can't really argue either that "well maybe they've had a tougher time in 2017", because they already pushed out MTX very aggressively in those previous years. And don't forget that MTX revenue includes TH, Solomon's store and bonds, meaning that out of the MTX revenue you see listed there, only a part of it comes from TH.

So really, they wouldn't have to substitute TH for anything else; they could just go back to Solomon's store additions, which are fine since they're mostly cosmetic AND guaranteed, so they don't prey on gambling addictions.


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13-Jan-2018 20:05:50

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04-Feb-2018 17:08:24

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The same ppl who defend th are the same ppl who say adding some of these promotional items in game would be too op. Please explain to me how th is balanced when we get promotions 24/7? If I suggested to add proteans as in game content those ppl would say that is way to op but if it's on th it's balanced. Proteans are ridiculously Common on th even if you don't buy keys. Proteans only give xp, But they will defend the nonstop 24/7 xp promotions like smouldering lamps and say it's balanced. You can already buy maxed accounts for $15000, to be honest that's pocket change irl with today's economy.


Now please tell me how adding proteans as in game content is too op compared to the 24/7 xp promotions? We get xp promotions almost every week or once every 2 weeks. I mean, proteans only give xp, just like th does so it seems balanced. :P

18-Feb-2018 10:56:02

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Runelower said:
From 40k to 24k active players in a couple of years is not "growing"


Rs3 gets 28-29k players a day on weekdays 30k a day on saturdays and 32k a day on sundays. Players per day does not mean those are the only active players. They don't play runescape 8 hours a day. I would say double xp weekends give us more incite on the active rs3 playerbase, which is 60k in peak hours. However as more players get 5.4b xp th will become useless to them, allowing them to quit faster. All those players at 5.4b may not have used to for 5.4b but the fact it becomes useless for them will make less incentive to use th.

04-Aug-2018 14:17:41

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Osrs developers are morons losing out on millions of dollars not having th. Osrs has been out for 6 years already. If they had treasure hunter in osrs 6 years ago they could have made millions. They decided not to. I guess that makes them idiots.

25-Apr-2019 02:35:56

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Dilbert2001 said:
Blackwing said:
scousy said:
Osrs developers are morons losing out on millions of dollars not having th. Osrs has been out for 6 years already. If they had treasure hunter in osrs 6 years ago they could have made millions. They decided not to. I guess that makes them idiots.

OSRS wouldn't have achieved the growth it did if it too would've ruined itself with predatory gambling; it was originally made for people who didn't want to play EoC, but for that purpose it didn't attract much popularity after the initial launch hype. Only when the MTX got out of control in RS3 did people start escaping from RS3 to OSRS to have a Runescape experience with game integrity, and it picked up from there with more refugees and returning players. So if OSRS would've also had TH-like MTX in place, those people would've outright quit the Runescape franchise altogether. :P


The kind of "predatory gambling" in online games the UK governments are investigating are actually the duel arena and 3rd party staking kind, not TH. :D

Stakers, don't worry though. They are just investigating more for the academic side. They are not going to shut down duel arena. Nonetheless, loot boxes with no real money player trading is totally not gambling, A My Friend! :D



Duel arena should be removed too. Or taxed.

26-Apr-2019 02:42:32

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They are also nerfing hunter xp rates to get more key sales to make it artificially make it look like a good product. If they sold 5.4b xp lamps for $300 im sure everyone would buy it but that doesen't make it a good product. It's just keys on a game that give random rewards. Osrs has a better product, but If you were judging "Good product off which game has more purchasable things, Rs3 would win that by miles. But osrs still has more players despite rs3 having more products to sell.

12-May-2019 22:39:47

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1. No one does butterflies for xp tortles and crystal chins are still better.

2. Bgh isn't done for xp.


They obviously nerfed those xp rates and make up stuff like xp rates are out of control and becoming a mess. :D:D:D


Edit: Ticking chins and tortles was not botting. it was an intended game mechanic. By that logic the entire game is botting because it's based off game ticks.

03-Aug-2019 19:35:51 - Last edited on 03-Aug-2019 19:37:45 by scousy

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It's already been confirmed osrs is the more profitable game. They buy memberships and bonds which is the majority of the revenue and mxt revenue went down from 2017 to 2018. If were going to talk about profits though the NBA is more profitable then the NFL but more people based on the ratings watch the NFL

17-Aug-2019 16:03:13

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Draco Burnz said:
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i wouldnt say remove it completely. keep cosmetics on th. but remove xp from it. even though damage has been done already


Meh.

At this point was really so bad about having "buyable xp"?

Like you said its beyond the point of no return so might as well leave as is.



Hunter xp rates were nerfed after 4 years after they confirmed those xp rates were killing the game.

18-Aug-2019 02:51:38

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Dilbert2001 said:
scousy said:
It's already been confirmed osrs is the more profitable game. They buy memberships and bonds which is the majority of the revenue and mxt revenue went down from 2017 to 2018. If were going to talk about profits though the NBA is more profitable then the NFL but more people based on the ratings watch the NFL


OSRS already been "confirmed" as the more "profitable" game? Confirmed by what?

Confirmed by then nosediving "80k OSRS "playerbase" now or about half it had a few months ago?

Confirmed by the rising RS3 "playerbase" since 4 months ago in the face of the nosediving OSRS "playerbase"?

Confirmed by the substantial and sustainable TH and Runecoins sales of over £24 mil last year, solely exist only in RS3?

Confirmed by the 180% u-turn where OSRS is forced to embrace NEW SCHOOL ideas of live events and e-sports like DMM and pseduo gambling of the latest trending Battle Royale in LMS where players are going to be wagering gp they can instantly get from selling the Bond MTX hoping to win more gp in game?



It states that osrs mobile brought in more players thus why they had a record breaking financial year. It's not crazy to think osrs makes more money then rs3.

18-Aug-2019 02:53:20

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