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Frastiel
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Frastiel

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I've been playing RS since 2007. This has always been a problem. Me, as well as many others I've spoken to in game would like PvP/PKing to be restricted to the worlds that have already been created for PvP specifically.
Or even the complete opposite, maybe a couple of worlds where PvP/PKing isn't allowed?
Now, I'm NOT trying to say we need to get rid of PvP/PKing. A lot of people love that about the game, and I understand that. All I'm saying is that there are also a lot of us who want nothing to do with that part of the game. We simply want to go about our business and RuneCraft, Quest, do our Achievement Diaries, etc. without having to deal with unnecessary hinderances.
Personally, I have a problem with going into the wilderness to do a mission, task diary, clue, etc only to be met by one or more PKers that will continually stalk me around and flat out try to be annoying/hindering me from doing my thing.

It's a toxic environment at times, and I believe that all RuneScape players should be able to play the way THEY want to. That includes PvP players, and those of us that just don't want to deal with PvP/PKing at all.
If we restrict the PKing/PvP to the allowed worlds that are already PvP only, that would give players like me a chance to play how we see fit, without the trolls running around trying to ruin our experience. But the players that DO enjoy PvP/PKing would still be able to on those PvP worlds. It would give the PvP players a place to kill each other to their heart's content; but not at the expense of.....well, everyone else.

To Re-Cap, my only issue is being interrupted unnecessarily by people just simply trying to stop me from doing what I'm trying to do for my own Gameplay.
I do NOT have a problem with anyone that simply enjoys the PvP community within RuneScape. However, I do feel that all players should have the freedom to DECIDE whether they want to PvP or not. Players that don't care for it should be able to avoid it 100%.
"The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing" -Socrates.

04-Mar-2019 21:04:44

Frastiel
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Frastiel

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Which would exclude me from Chaos Elemental, the best RuneCrafting exp currently, Revenants (the only other way to get the Chaos Elemental drops for boss log), Cursed Energies, and a fair few agility levels. Not to mention the entire Wilderness selection of Achievement Diaries and the quests that involve it. "The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing" -Socrates.

05-Mar-2019 00:54:06

Nex is Life
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Cursed Energies and Abyss Runecrafting are as good as they are because they are in PvP. If they were made safe they would be nerfed.
Revanents have always had their drops held up by risk - it also makes them more fun. I love doing Revs because I might run into and fight other people there, whether they are PKers or Rev hunters or both like me :D

At the end of the day if you want to get better exp rates you have to deal with the risk or just accept the slightly worse rates of Incandescent energies/Soul Altar.

I agree that quests should all be removed from Wildy and thats about it. Most of them have already been instanced anyway.
You'll get it when you deserve it.

05-Mar-2019 01:15:38

Frastiel
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Frastiel

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"More fun" is subjective. And not 100% true, in regards to "if you want better exp. rates you have to deal with the risk." There's a ton of things that are the highest exp. for their skills and don't involve PvP at all. And to be honest nerfing the Cursed energies, if that's what it takes, would lessen the bot popularity of it. at least minutely.

And hey, if the PvP is fun for you, that's awesome. But not everyone should be subject to being at the expense of your fun. Which would still be there. They've already made PvP only worlds, so why not make those the only worlds for PvP? Or at least give a few options for people to play PvP-free.
And still, Chaos Elemental. What is someone to do if they want the Insane Final Boss title, yet want nothing to do with the PvP community? just suck it up? Sounds fair.
"The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing" -Socrates.

05-Mar-2019 01:25:14 - Last edited on 05-Mar-2019 01:39:52 by Frastiel

Nex is Life
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Nex is Life

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Frastiel said:
"More fun" is subjective. And not 100% true, in regards to "if you want better exp. rates you have to deal with the risk." There's a ton of things that are the highest exp. for their skills and don't involve PvP at all. And to be honest nerfing the Cursed energies, if that's what it takes, would lessen the bot popularity of it. at least minutely.
Fun is subjective. A lot of people enjoy PvP. Some people don't just like some people don't like skilling, or PvM, or Questing. Not a reason to change any of those and take away from people who do enjoy them.
Some the Wilderness safe on most worlds would mean people could safely exploit all it's content which was balanced around being very dangerous. Such as warbands, brawling gloves and anything with Demonic skulls.
Not every meta training method needs to be dangerous. Some are, while some are high intensity or high requirements. You would complain more if every skill had it's best exp rates in Wildy. Although a majority do if you have brawling gloves for them.
You'll get it when you deserve it.

05-Mar-2019 02:32:08

Nex is Life
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Frastiel said:
And hey, if the PvP is fun for you, that's awesome. But not everyone should be subject to being at the expense of your fun. Which would still be there. They've already made PvP only worlds, so why not make those the only worlds for PvP? Or at least give a few options for people to play PvP-free.
And still, Chaos Elemental. What is someone to do if they want the Insane Final Boss title, yet want nothing to do with the PvP community? just suck it up? Sounds fair.
You have every option to play PvP free. Just avoid the one area of the map that is open PvP. Compared to other similar sized areas, Wilderness has relatively little content. As I said I support instancing any quests that still have steps in the Wilderness.

I have never seen an IFBer complaining about Chaos Elemental, in fact I have seen people say it is part of the challenge. I have a lot of progress on it myself, including a Chaos Ele threshold, my only problem with Chaos Elemental that it is in multi and level 50 so I will not be able to risk decent gear for anti-PKing as I would like to if it were single way. So probably some cheap T80 weapon like most pet hunters or maybe a spare ports weapon. If you get PKed just hop and go back gg, in the unlikely case you get smited it's like a 300k loss for RCB. Less than paying death for your items when you die at a high level boss.
You'll get it when you deserve it.

05-Mar-2019 02:38:07

Frastiel
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Frastiel

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"Every option to play PvP free"? not 100%. There's multiple things that you can ONLY do if you go into the wilderness. which is not PvP free at all. And what is it "taking away" from people to be able to avoid getting followed around by someone killing you when you just want to do your stuff? Leaving PvP an option, but only on the PvP worlds, you would still be very able to go and do the PvP that you love.

It's also taking away from the players that hate PvP to say "Oh, yeah, you can't even do this unless you deal with it and go to the PvP area where you can get harassed for no reason and not avoid it. Wanna kill chaos elemental? want/need cursed energies for something but don't have a mad bank? Suck it up. You're getting PKed."
Again, I'm fine with PvP/PKing being a thing. We already know that getting rid of that entirely is a bad idea and doesn't work out well.

All I'm saying is that everyone should be able to play the game 100% to their liking. If I want to not PvP at all, but I still need IFB, that should be an option somehow. Wanting to go for the titles and achievements I want should not inherently mean that I have to deal with the toxicity of trolls that I can't really avoid. Hopping worlds often just means someone else is going to do the same, or they've added you and they're just going to follow you around to ruin your day for no reason.

Sure, you can turn off your friends thing. But that shouldn't be required to play the game peacefully.

The only thing it would be taking away from people that like PvP is the easy kill of someone that isn't even trying to PvP in the first place. But from talking to PvP players throughout the years, a "true pker" likes a challenge.

And trust me, people are exploiting it regardless. Cursed energies, green dragons, often have multiple people on almost any world. and bots as well. This is no secret.
But why should the players that simply want/need that have to worry about/deal with PKers?
"The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing" -Socrates.

05-Mar-2019 21:27:38

Frastiel
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Frastiel

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Again, "Fun" is highly subjective. There's a ton of people that play the game that wouldn't consider it fun at all. And when has a mod/developer, etc ever said that the Wilderness was "meant" to be toxic? C'mon, now... "The only true wisdom is knowing that you know nothing" -Socrates.

05-Mar-2019 21:28:42 - Last edited on 05-Mar-2019 22:29:27 by Frastiel

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