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Dong U Dead

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Reworded Locked Bank Idea:

I often wonder why Jagex won't bring in an option so we can lock items to our accounts, this is separate to keepsake. It would be similar to having a bank safe deposit box irl, so let's call this idea a Bank Safe Deposit Box where we can keep our most valuable items and gp.

A. We could put away say a minimum of 20 million gp for a set amount of time.

B. We could put away an item or items for a set amount of time; say 3, 6, 12 or 24 months or permanently.

- We would pay for the privilege to use this Bank Safe Deposit Box.

- It wouldn't work for combat items, items in the Bank Safe Deposit Box cannot be traded, cannot be sold, can not be taken into the wilderness, can not be used in areas where you can die and lose your items.

- The Bank Safe Deposit Box is for protecting your items of value, that are precious to you or for saving up your gp for something special. You would still be able to use the items in your Bank Safe Deposit Box in everyday RuneScape play except for combat situations.

What are your thoughts on this?

Do you think it a good idea?

Why won't this be brought in-game as a peace of mind for those items we hold dearly, that we cherish, that are precious to us? This is not to be used as security for your account or used instead of security for your account.

I know we have semi-good security, I feel it could be a hell of a lot better with a few extra bits and bobs such as a Bank Safe Deposit Box.
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23-Mar-2019 11:43:49 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 21:13:16 by Dong U Dead

Blackwing
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I often wonder why Jagex won't bring in an option so we can lock items to our accounts, this is separate to keepsake. This item/s would be locked to the account for the life of the account - I would pay big money for an option like this.

What are your thoughts on this?

Do you think it a good idea?

It's a bad idea, because it's not stopping the hacker from getting access to your account in the first place. There are far better protection methods, which prevent access in the first place, and which won't be a detriment to your own gameplay. Because that's another issue with this: regret. E.g. you might think you want to permalock your blue partyhat to your account, but then later you'd actually want to sell it or give it to a friend... except you couldn't anymore.


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Why won't this be brought in-game as extra security for those items we hold dearly, that we cherish?

Because it's literally not needed if the preventative protection methods are implemented as they should be, since the hacker would never even gain access to your account in the first place. This suggestion does much more harm to you than it does to the hacker.


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I know we have simi-good security, I feel it could be a hell of a lot better with a few extra bits and bobs such as locked bank items.

Right now, the biggest problem in Jagex's account security is how easy it can be to recover someone's account and completely bypass the authenticator. That needs to be fixed, rather than implementing stuff like this.
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23-Mar-2019 11:55:20

Draco Burnz
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I often wonder why Jagex won't bring in an option so we can lock items to our accounts, this is separate to keepsake. This item/s would be locked to the account for the life of the account - I would pay big money for an option like this.

What are your thoughts on this?

Do you think it a good idea?

It's a bad idea, because it's not stopping the hacker from getting access to your account in the first place. There are far better protection methods, which prevent access in the first place, and which won't be a detriment to your own gameplay. Because that's another issue with this: regret. E.g. you might think you want to permalock your blue partyhat to your account, but then later you'd actually want to sell it or give it to a friend... except you couldn't anymore.


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Why won't this be brought in-game as extra security for those items we hold dearly, that we cherish?

Because it's literally not needed if the preventative protection methods are implemented as they should be, since the hacker would never even gain access to your account in the first place. This suggestion does much more harm to you than it does to the hacker.


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I know we have simi-good security, I feel it could be a hell of a lot better with a few extra bits and bobs such as locked bank items.

Right now, the biggest problem in Jagex's account security is how easy it can be to recover someone's account and completely bypass the authenticator. That needs to be fixed, rather than implementing stuff like this.


Agreed.

No support.

Only see ppl complaining about this in the long run.
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23-Mar-2019 12:59:10

Dong U Dead

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The hacker gets hold of your account, you still have items in your account that you value - it's not all lost.

The only reason a hacker has gets hold of your account is to drop all your profitable possessions if they are locked to your account you won't have lost it all.

I would also like a separate money holder where you can hold money for 3 - 24 months and this also can't be broken until the times up <- we could do this for items as well.

This is a good money maker for Jagex as well. As I am sure people would pay for protection of items/gp.
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23-Mar-2019 13:04:44 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 21:01:36 by Dong U Dead

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I dont think you read his post at all heres what he said:

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It's a bad idea, because it's not stopping the hacker from getting access to your account in the first place. There are far better protection methods, which prevent access in the first place, and which won't be a detriment to your own gameplay. Because that's another issue with this: regret. E.g. you might think you want to permalock your blue partyhat to your account, but then later you'd actually want to sell it or give it to a friend... except you couldn't anymore.
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23-Mar-2019 13:14:27

Blackwing
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The hacker gets hold of your account, you still have items in your account that you value - it's not all lost.

...or you could just use the preventative protection methods that don't allow the hacker to get a hold of your account in the first place.

The only people who would think this permalock idea is a good one are those who don't properly understand account security, because it's not random who gets hacked: unless Jagex itself fucks up somehow, in which case you should hold Jagex responsible (just like they were held responsible with the Mod Jed incident, and the affected people were reinstated their lost wealth), you won't get hacked if you properly secure your account with 2FA on both your email and RS account, unique passwords for both, and have common sense to not get phished etc.


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The only reason a hacker has gets hold of your account is to drop all your profitable possessions if they are locked to your account you won't have lost it all.

That's not true, even the hackers who are primarily motivated by money, are often found griefing their victims by e.g. destroying their untradeables, which yields no money to the hacker, or changing the account's name to something inappropriate, which likewise doesn't monetarily benefit the hacker.


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I would also like a separate money holder where you can hold money for 3 - 12 months and this also can't be broken until the times up <- we could do this for items as well.

Why, what for do you need to restrict your wealth like that? Runescape doesn't have a bank system that temporarily takes money from you and gives it back to you later with interest, so this would be just as useless as permalocking your items.
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23-Mar-2019 13:23:22

Blackwing
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This is a good money maker for Jagex as well. As I am sure people would pay for protection of items/gp.

The only people who would pay for this are those who don't understand account security well enough, and so they would be much better off being educated about how to really secure their accounts. As to moneymaking itself, sure, Jagex might make some extra money from this, but it'd be a scam that exploits those who don't know any better.

Remember, most of us are already paying $11 a month to play the game, and the currently available security methods are free, so any new ones should be free as well if you're a paying member.
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23-Mar-2019 13:25:37 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2019 13:27:29 by Blackwing

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what about in a pvp situation? (ik pvp but) if i was lock zgs etc to my account and i die in pvp with it what will happen then?

As I said its valuable items, items you don't want lost so these items would not be able to be used in PVP type areas or used in combat.

The items I am thinking of are items that are precious to you some may have value others maybe not.

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