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Kopaka
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There is not a restriction on time between making posts.

There is no rule against posting in your thread to bump it, especially if your post contains anything relevant to the thread and therefore is not spam, but as far as I've seen even writing a post that just says "bump" appears to be permitted.

So why is there a 10 minute timer in between bumps? What is the point?

30-Apr-2019 03:23:12

Chief Elf
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That's a good question and I can't help but find this so familiar.

The gravebumping rule was slightly modified with the latest rule change. It used to be the case where we couldn't gravebump a very old thread, but now we can. The only exception to the rule is of course, that if a reasonable person can determine it as spam.

I think the removal of the timer would come with another RSOF update, and the community is aware of how long that takes *rolls eyes*.

But I present an argument.. that it's easier to troll or spam with the removal of the limiter.

You see, let's say someone wants to bump a whole page of threads. First of all, it can easily be perceived as spam, so one questions how likely it is that an Fmod would admonish the perpetrator. By posting 'bump', it's easy to identify the individual bumping the thread and at what time.

If you remove the timer, thread creators can bump their threads with a reduced fear of being detected because they don't leave a big of a trace as posting 'bump'. It's not a difficult scenario to imagine RSOF descending into bump wars.

An opposing argument could be that presently, we don't see many incidents of thread owners bumping their own threads and choking up the front page.

But when you remove the time limit.. one wonders how the human psyche will perform in an environment where we all want to see our threads on the first page, will we be able to control our competitiveness and maintain maturity? Does Jagex trust the RSOF enough for that? What damage are we risking when we allow that? If Jagex removes the time limit and the risk becomes a reality, will it seem that Jagex does not have a cap on things when they try to reverse their decision? What would the backlash look like?
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30-Apr-2019 04:27:07 - Last edited on 30-Apr-2019 04:29:14 by Chief Elf

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There actually is a restriction on making posts in a set timeframe, though most people will be hard pressed to ever hit it. I've personally hit it a few times when making a thread and doing reserves. Something like 15 posts in under 10 minutes and it tells you you are posting too much, and you have to wait about 10-15 minutes to post again. Why no game balance in RS3 Jagex || VN discussion Thread
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30-Apr-2019 05:30:16

Chief Elf
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Jack Flac said:
There actually is a restriction on making posts in a set timeframe, though most people will be hard pressed to ever hit it. I've personally hit it a few times when making a thread and doing reserves. Something like 15 posts in under 10 minutes and it tells you you are posting too much, and you have to wait about 10-15 minutes to post again.


Yes I experience the same thing especially when trying to create a big thread which requires a lot of reserves.
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30-Apr-2019 10:38:59

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Kopaka said:
So why is there a 10 minute timer in between bumps? What is the point?


It's to stop say Clans or Groups for hogging page 1. (Just an example that often happens and not belittling Clans at all)

Also there is a limit on bumping posts. 1 Bump post per 10 mins 99% follow that unwritten rule. If a thread gets bumped way too often as they sometimes do, they get reported to Forum Help thread. The F-Mod asks nice for them to slow down. It usually works well and they slow right down. Often they refuse and threads are sent to Jagex for review and they may end up locked.

Everyone needs to remember each thread deserves some time on page 1 under the spot light. If everyone had no limit the bumping would be out of control. So the Forums need a flood limiter on the bump button and bump posts.
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30-Apr-2019 10:59:29

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Tuffty said:
Kopaka said:
So why is there a 10 minute timer in between bumps? What is the point?


It's to stop say Clans or Groups for hogging page 1. (Just an example that often happens and not belittling Clans at all)

Gotta be real with you, clan forum section has so little traffic/posts that you can wait almost a day and your thread will still be on page 1. (also isn't the bumping rule for clan threads 1 hour and not 10 minutes?)
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30-Apr-2019 17:13:49 - Last edited on 30-Apr-2019 17:14:04 by UrekMazino

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In the past it was to prevent spamming.

Nowadays, with the forums receiving so little traffic as it is, you can patiently wait the ten minutes between bumps and you'll still be able to flood the entire first page with threads created by yourself.
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30-Apr-2019 17:18:30

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UrekMazino said:
Tuffty said:
Kopaka said:
So why is there a 10 minute timer in between bumps? What is the point?


It's to stop say Clans or Groups for hogging page 1. (Just an example that often happens and not belittling Clans at all)

Gotta be real with you, clan forum section has so little traffic/posts that you can wait almost a day and your thread will still be on page 1. (also isn't the bumping rule for clan threads 1 hour and not 10 minutes?)

No if the thread was off page 1 it could be bumped. If it's still on page 1 then it's left till it leaves.

Not sure where you got the 1 hour bump from. I can't remember that.

I only gave the Clans section as an example. I could have even said Discontinued items or other busy market place sections.
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30-Apr-2019 17:30:29

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Southeaster said:
In the past it was to prevent spamming.

Nowadays, with the forums receiving so little traffic as it is, you can patiently wait the ten minutes between bumps and you'll still be able to flood the entire first page with threads created by yourself.


Thats why we say if your page is on post 1 still it does not need a bump. F-Mods have requested less bumps then so as not to hog page 1.
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30-Apr-2019 17:31:43

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I welcome a possibility of a review about the bump button limits, given the much lower traffic RSOF accumulates these days. The bump limit was technically introduced during the days that people here were totally competing for viewership due to high volume traffic.

30-Apr-2019 18:53:08 - Last edited on 30-Apr-2019 18:54:03 by Louiellen

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