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Iso Decoder
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The Toxic Part:

No idea which of the two is more problematic – elitists or defeatists. On one hand we have half the player base getting called out for elitism (I do call others that too) and the other half getting called out for defeatism regarding new bosses with new mechanics. Either way, I have seen a rising level of power creep and toxicity within the game. In case you want to know why I’ve come on forums in time for mining and smithing rework, level 120 summoning and the new elite dungeon, ‘Shadow Reef’, it is due to several in game activities whose toxic mind sets have also stained the forums.

Why do I care about other people’s posts? Or why should I care what others say? Yeah simple questions with a simple answer, ‘Just IGNORE them.’ But for me, that depends on the virtual environment in which I find myself.

If it was a console or PC game, ‘Dynasty Warriors, Super Smash Bros, Touhou Project etc.’ or an anime series, not only would I not be bothered about game difficulty or character popularity polls in heated forum debate like, ‘Flander Scarlet from EoSD needs a nerf or I quit series!’ or ‘Why isn’t Kaede Akamatus in Danganronpa 3 not number 1. This poll is biased! I shall make a new one. Reeee!’ I won’t even create an account to comment on said forums.

Games and anime in those situations are STATIC. Whatever new plot or difficulty creators want to give to content within the series, won’t affect whatever content I originally have before. If Koei is going to make Lu Bu one shot everyone regardless of level in dynasty warriors 9 or if the anime publisher decides to scrap ‘Date A Live season 3’ after announcing they will make one this coming year, I’d just simply shrug it off and not buy into future content.
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04-Mar-2019 07:33:11

Iso Decoder
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However, MMOs are different. Content is ever changing. Whether you can keep and maintain your quest cape, comp cape, max cape or even something as simple as having the ability to use your summoning familiar specs is all up to change. Everything here is DYNAMIC. Remember the complaints when all scrolls were literally dumped and deleted from all enchanted summoning helms without any warning? And how all the high-level multiple party hat owners simply laughed at how poor these scrubs are for crying about something worth a couple of thousands? (By the way, annihilate scrolls are 9k each and someone lost 50 of them) Alright, maybe a maximum of 450k isn’t a lot to most people, but the principle exists.

Just because you are better than someone, does not mean the other player should suffer unfairly. You never know when one day karma decides to be the ‘bigger bitch’ it is and change something that affects you unfairly. And that change is due to the opinions that other people want, which is why opinions, not just mine own, matter.

In fact, I’ve seen some communities that have posted on the forums in a way that is nauseating, and not just the pvm community:

PvMers calling everyone else ‘defeatists who should quit the game’ because they could not join their leet af community for group pvm or group options of pvm that took away max/quest capes etc. Most recent at time of post are elite dungeons taking away quest capes.

PvMers approving the move to make top tier versions of Mobilising Armies rewards to be moved to Raids, and after it is done, wanting more mini games rewards to be moved to raids also because it’s fun to take further jabs at the DnD/Time-Gated content community after they just lost Mobilising Armies isn’t it?

Puzzle Solvers/Questers calling PvMers ‘retarded apes’ for being unable to solve all three of Sliske’s extra reward slider puzzles during the easter holiday quest.
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04-Mar-2019 07:33:47 - Last edited on 04-Mar-2019 07:33:59 by Iso Decoder

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Merchants calling out on everyone who are poorer than they – that money making is extremely easy so gold sinks here and there via deaths/supplies/invention etc. isn’t a problem for everyone.

PvPers think it is fine to put slayer monsters and skilling resources in the wild so they have cannon fodder (Skillers and PvMers) to pick on. Making the div-o-matic dropped on death with all charges without any prior warning seems fair to this community. Oh, they also think you are a noob if you can’t get 99 herblore, coz ‘warbands are very easy’ when in reality they are just after your risk-for-all gear.

Skillers laughing and enjoying PvMers’ crashed profits due to stone spirits most skillers would not want to use.

PvMers and skillers wanting all skills to be raised to 120, calling Runescape skills to be too easy and attainable for all while mocking others ‘Why is it you don’t have 120 summoning?’ (which is the least toxic comment already so if you want to hear more, go to future content forums).

Can't all the 6 communities learn to coexist with one another?

In fact, I was about to support a 120 summoning familiar idea myself while negotiating both anti and pro 120 summoning with ideas for both rework and expansion – even ones that lead to other skills. But having witnessed the toxicity high level PvMers and skillers were spewing forth while refusing to empathize with people not on their levels, I decided, ‘Fuck you,’ and simply am adamant on ‘No 120 summoning or skills ever.’
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04-Mar-2019 07:35:12

Iso Decoder
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Want to hear about my level 110 shadow blood barrage idea? Or my damage over time effect for the current fire titans? Screw that. Delete them. Don’t even care that I’ve put in three days’ worth of ideas as well as 600m and 7 hours on summoning to get it to 120 from 102, to contribute to and anticipate the ‘120 summoning ideas’ thread. The toxicity on that ideas thread from the other high levels when I read through everyone’s posts other than the OP made me want to puke.

And of course, we have the forum elites trolls to whom none of the above matter and just want to be a pain to every community just because. Though, having looked up two specific users on hi scores, they are definitely top of their game so I have no idea if they are trolling to be ass hats or if they are consistently all-round elitists (congratulations on being in this elusive sector – you know who you are so be glad I won’t stoop to your levels by naming and shaming you two).

It is the toxic, power creep mindset that takes away the fun in this game, because with every update, I view it with a sense of dread not knowing what direction toxicity and Jmod favoritism towards a specific community of player, is going to take it.

And since someone profile stalked me on HLF by checking the name of the clan I’m in, yes I’m in ‘RS Maxed’ but everyone there were helpful, amicable, did not require maxed players at all and taught members how to do Beastmaster raid in BM clan weekly while inviting us to Yakamaru in groups that consisted of other non-clan members.

One of the pmods even supported or encouraged my own personal endeavours: “Don’t play for others, play for yourself.”

So no, none of the toxicity has anything to do with my clan or its name at all.
~ Level 99 mechanical engineering

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04-Mar-2019 07:35:54 - Last edited on 04-Mar-2019 07:36:02 by Iso Decoder

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The Goals Part:

Bearing in mind the above, I’ll ask now, according to what is expected of me from the community, because everything has been happening so fast and community requirements to be the player who’s ‘worthy of playing this game,’ have been racking up so much I can’t keep up or can’t afford anymore.

PS: accomplished in-game community requirements to be ‘worthy of the game’ ticked off in green, non-accomplished in red and accomplishments lost to updates in yellow.

‘Get max cape and then you can talk,’ – elite forum user


‘Get Prif to raise all skills to max with easy xp,’ – random quester


‘Completing all types of treasure trail rewards,’ – forum user who thinks those that can’t do Sliske’s chocolate factory post-holiday quest rewards are retards


‘Obtain all skilling outfits, elite and non elite’ – guys who says everything is so fast with skilling outfits and everyone should have one too as most are obtainable now anyways


‘Get 120 summoning’ – forum users who support 120 summoning because it’s the easiest skill and you are a noob if you can’t get it on dxp weekends


‘Poor noobs who can’t afford gear intended for content and can’t sustain losses. My bank’s at 10b btw’ – rich merchant at ge. The result are 2 sets of barrows dyed augmented elite sirenics and tectonics as well as one set of custom fit trimmed master work I made for myself. All augmented but no idea what the community thinks are best dps perks so haven’t perked them yet.


‘Go for 120 all skills’ – a random smith


‘Complete all area achievement tasks’ – guy who demands everyone has daemonheim aura so they don’t waste time rune crafting runes and guy who said falador shield 4 is super easy to get.
~ Level 99 mechanical engineering

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04-Mar-2019 07:36:41 - Last edited on 04-Mar-2019 07:38:06 by Iso Decoder

Iso Decoder
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‘Gz on getting to Prif and maxing. Why not get a quest cape as well? Quests are great for your account btw.’ – Max Quest Caper before I lost the cape to Shadow Reef.


‘Lol, quest cape only? Try getting MQC now that it’s out, only scrubs wear normal quest capes.’ – slayer on elite slayer mob tasks years after elite mobs came out and before Shadow Reef


‘Maxed noob! You should be trim comped by now or playing high level ironman by now.’ – Level 104 ironman in Falador Mining Guild


‘Screw the above, why not do all tasks?’ – smiths, miners, cooks and fishermen competing in runescores. (Most notable feats for me is livid farm and artisan workshop completion including outfits and cosmetic overrides.


‘Screw comp, I only admire ‘Final Boss’ titles, preferably ‘insane’ – random w99 lumbridge cook’


‘Get 120 dungeoneering before worrying about tokens – fellow dungeon’


Current condition:

Already spent 600m on summoning and bonds to buy keys to get bonus summoning xp on dxp weekend. But now, to fulfil at least the yellow requests I could:

1) Blow my supplies to get my quest cape back on normal mode elite dungeons which would at least make progress towards the red requests.
2) Admit I suck at pvm, ignore the red requests for a long time and finish elite dungeons on ‘story mode’ to get my quest cape back and hang my head in shame if someone decides to ask what my elite dungeon kill count is when he sees me wearing my quest cape. Note to self: never put on that cape until I actually beat dungeons on normal mode so others won’t find out. Also, this doesn’t mean you forum users have found out what I want to do, because at this moment I’m still figuring out Asterllarn on normal mode and without any idea how much more gp I should spend on deaths and supplies in learning.
~ Level 99 mechanical engineering

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04-Mar-2019 07:37:10 - Last edited on 04-Mar-2019 08:01:58 by Iso Decoder

Iso Decoder
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3) Finish my almost completed Arc and Daemonheim tasks for exploration achievements.
4) Grind out all skills to 120

Seeing I don’t have time to do all the above 4 present community requests at once and nor do I want to keep blowing supplies for the time being after spending so much on 120 summoning, my final question is:

What do I do now? Pick a number from the above please.
~ Level 99 mechanical engineering

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04-Mar-2019 07:37:36

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