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Yoiola

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I enjoyed the quest very, very much, it was a really nice surprise and it was a good quest. I do support though. Elite dungeons should be left a separate piece of content and needed for the MQC, like it has been until now. While it's true that many quests have somewaht difficult boss fights, I feel that the elite dungeons are an entirely diffferent thing and should be left as such. You are making them mandatory for questers and this is a bit bizzarre. I enjoy questing most of all, but I enjoy skilling as well and I do mid level pvm for leisure and high level PVM when needed and when I manage. I do feel that too many things are being heavily contaminated with bossing though, and I don't feel this is right. My opinion, of course. So, I do support.

26-Feb-2019 14:27:26

Yoiola

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Besides, the absurd thing is the new bosses are on reaper for comp, the 3 EDs are now absurdly a normal QP requirement, BUT, unlike all the other elite dungeons, ED3 lore IS NOT on the MQC. I did collect all the pages and got both of the book from the bosses, because I am going for MQC and you never know, thing is they haven't been added to MQC. Pretty inconsistent, I must say.

26-Feb-2019 14:47:04 - Last edited on 26-Feb-2019 14:48:16 by Yoiola

Yoiola

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I believe I fall under your "real quester" definition, Vaseth. And I do agree with OP here. The QC is not supposed to be a MQC. I really do not understand why so rarely on this forums are people able to see another player's point of view. I do see a pattern: "What I have done, you must do and don't complain." Nobody prevents you from doing the elite dungeons, if you enjoy them. The problem for OP is it is mandatory. I collected all the ED3 related lore yesterday. Doesn't make me more of a "real quester".

26-Feb-2019 15:19:55

Yoiola

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For me the problem (and it doesn't personally concern me, mind you, as I am 1 achievement away from MQC and it's the port trio one) is that this is tied to the quest cape and not to the master quest cape. It's an inconsistent choice, considering the lore books from ED3 themselves aren't even a MQC requirement, while the lore books from the first two ED are. I hope they leave the elite dugeons a MQC requirement, although I very much doubt they are going to address this issue, especially when the voices of less empathetic players are always so strong on the forums and on reddit.

26-Feb-2019 20:39:30

Yoiola

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Rikornak said:
Yoiola said:
For me the problem (and it doesn't personally concern me, mind you, as I am 1 achievement away from MQC and it's the port trio one) is that this is tied to the quest cape and not to the master quest cape. It's an inconsistent choice, considering the lore books from ED3 themselves aren't even a MQC requirement, while the lore books from the first two ED are. I hope they leave the elite dugeons a MQC requirement, although I very much doubt they are going to address this issue, especially when the voices of less empathetic players are always so strong on the forums and on reddit.


I am fairly certain that the lack of books (and a certain post quest secret) are supposed to be on MQC and were just an oversight they're not added yet. I mean as a lorehound you should get them anyway.


I did indeed already get them yesterday. I also think it was an oversight, though it's a bit strange.

26-Feb-2019 23:46:25

Yoiola

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I apologize for not reading everything, just wanted to point something out. I feel (if i interpret correctly) that not being able to do even story mode isn't the only reason for people to be against the EDs beig included in the quest. It's a matter of principle as well, I think. And also, I believe, a big part of it is that completing the EDs mixes pieces of content that usually wouldn't go together and the EDs for some people might take arguably much more time than a boss fight. Boss fights have always been a part of questing, but having to do three long, somewhat unrelated pieces of content to finish a quest and not just fight a boss, or some bosses, but fight a considerable amount of foes plus 9 bosses as well... I believe this is the thing that bugs most of the people.

I do think they have a point. I finished the quest and I'm slowly working my way (might not ever be able to get there though) to managing a kill of Seiryu and the Shadow reef bosses in normal mode - fortunately I already managed to do all of the Dragonkin Laboratory in normal mode - but I do understand them.

We are not talking about the MQC here, it's the normal quest cape and, although many quest boss fights are very hard (back in the day I must have died like 20 times with Nomad), this is different, it is no "ordinary" quest boss fight.

09-Mar-2019 05:34:08

Yoiola

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UrekMazino said:
Yoiola said:

I didn't see nearly as many people complaining about Sliske's Endgame boss fight, it featured 3 waves of boss fights, all tougher than ED story mode and had to be solo'd. But how come there's so much more complaints about ED being included in the quest. Yes it takes longer but its also easier and can be done in a group of 3.


I really think it's a matter of principle, in a way, and I kind of get it, just trying to see the point of view of people that complain. I'm not personally affected by it and although I'm certainly not good at PvM, I don't mind quest fights at all, even if some of them got me raging XD. The EDs are not ordinary boss fights and Jagex should make their mind about the quest cape. It's not a cape of accomplishment, in the way that the skill capes are (and certainly the MQC is not a Master cape of accomplishment, in the way that other master skill capes are and that's a big issue for me, but that's beside the point here, it just bugs me because I don't think it's been given the value it has). Maybe a requirement of that type was better suited for the MQC, I don't know if I'm managing to explain myself.

09-Mar-2019 18:05:30 - Last edited on 09-Mar-2019 18:07:36 by Yoiola

Yoiola

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@Vaseth I didn't mean pieces of content unrelated lore wise, I meant unrelated as in oriented towards a different target of player, a different style of play, so to say. I'd like to repeat that I'm not advocating for myself, I just think there is reason in some of the things people against it are saying.

I enjoyed the quest, very much actually. I also did the Azure key post quest content. I just would have seen the Ed's better suited for a MQC requirement, like they have always been until now.

10-Mar-2019 18:06:51

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