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Just Me Em
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but most dragons have six limbs, meaning that unless their wings are adapted ribs like a turtle's shell it doesn't make sense for them to be closely related to dinosaurs which only have four (arms/wings and legs), and dragons clearly just from the way their body's are shaped don't have the basic hip structure that defines birds and dinosaurs. They're just clearly not closely related
And considering Gielinor's evolutionary path clearly mirrors ours pretty closely because we have a lot of common species, like cows, pigs, sheep, etc, that could only come to exist by following an almost identical evolutionary path than us. Runescape has a lot of modern birds which are in the clade dinosauria, the same as all extinct dinosaurs (keeping mind that pterosaurs and dinosaurs are sister groups)
As a side note the main evolutionary difference seems to be the wide range of humanoid species which implies that humans didn't travel around a lot en masse until very recently allowing other humanoid and human adjacent species to thrive and diversify across different continents (similar to pre us-human migration up until the last like 30,000 years) instead of resulting in one monolithic species like we have today.

23-May-2019 02:33:20 - Last edited on 23-May-2019 02:59:25 by Just Me Em

Dilbert2001
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Dragons are obviously mythical creatures. They can have any numbers of limbs.

Western dragons and oriental dragons are very different. Oriental dragons like Seiryu has 0, 2, 4 or 5 short legs depending on folklore. It may or may not have a pair of wings. So Seiryu can have 0 to 7 limbs depending on what countries the lore comes from.

Dinosaurs are different beasts though because they were real. Technically prehistoric snakes like Titanoboa are relatives of (or considered a kind of) dinosaurs too. Snake don't have limbs.

So you can't distinguish dragons from dinosaurs just based on numbers of limbs.

Well, I have yet to find any in game lore that Jagex said dinosaurs exist in Gielinor other than the concept arts that was produced once for the cancelled Mod Mark passion Fossil Island project.

23-May-2019 03:22:35 - Last edited on 23-May-2019 03:25:26 by Dilbert2001

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said:
The first dragon, QBD, was created from the egg of a water-dwelling reptile according to the First Dragonkin Journal.

Dilbert2001 said:
No words about dinosaurs and how they got there.

How do you manage to contradict yourself in 2 sentences back to back lol. Just because the name of said reptile isn't mentioned, doesn't mean its not dinosaurs. The descriptive name sure does hint so.
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23-May-2019 03:55:49

Dilbert2001
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UrekMazino said:
Dilbert2001 said:
The first dragon, QBD, was created from the egg of a water-dwelling reptile according to the First Dragonkin Journal.

Dilbert2001 said:
No words about dinosaurs and how they got there.

How do you manage to contradict yourself in 2 sentences back to back lol. Just because the name of said reptile isn't mentioned, doesn't mean its not dinosaurs. The descriptive name sure does hint so.


How can you not realize dragons and dinosaurs are two different beasts?

23-May-2019 04:42:23

Jon Stryder
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(Mainly aimed at Just Me Em)

But remember, as has been pointed out, dragons were created through a process of experimentation. So they did not evolve gradually through a natural, Darwinian progression, but something more akin to gene-splicing. As such dragons would be neither dragonkin nor dinosaur (or whatever these 'giant mindless reptiles' turn out to be), but would combine characteristics from both progenitor species.


This could include a generic quadruped dinosaur/reptilian skeletal structure, but with the addition of dragonkin wings and facial features.
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23-May-2019 08:14:12 - Last edited on 23-May-2019 08:24:19 by Jon Stryder

UrekMazino
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Dilbert2001 said:
UrekMazino said:
Dilbert2001 said:
The first dragon, QBD, was created from the egg of a water-dwelling reptile according to the First Dragonkin Journal.

Dilbert2001 said:
No words about dinosaurs and how they got there.

How do you manage to contradict yourself in 2 sentences back to back lol. Just because the name of said reptile isn't mentioned, doesn't mean its not dinosaurs. The descriptive name sure does hint so.


How can you not realize dragons and dinosaurs are two different beasts?

How did you manage to think that I said such a thing?
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23-May-2019 08:36:31

Dilbert2001
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Jon Stryder said:
(Mainly aimed at Just Me Em)

But remember, as has been pointed out, dragons were created through a process of experimentation. So they did not evolve gradually through a natural, Darwinian progression, but something more akin to gene-splicing. As such dragons would be neither dragonkin nor dinosaur (or whatever these 'giant mindless reptiles' turn out to be), but would combine characteristics from both progenitor species.


This could include a generic quadruped dinosaur/reptilian skeletal structure, but with the addition of dragonkin wings and facial features.


Before the first dragon, QBD, was created by the dragonkin, evolution of dragons did not apply obviously. However, after QBD was created, the evolution and natural selection of dragons began and yes, they could have turned into creatures totally don't look like QBD, the dragonkin or that huge water-dwelling reptile QBD was created from.

Remember there is also at least one race of dragon not descended from the dragons created by the dragonkin but were immigrated from other plane - the Fairy Dragon. And these alien dragons can also cross-breed with local Gielinorian dragons too.

23-May-2019 16:24:19 - Last edited on 23-May-2019 16:24:52 by Dilbert2001

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