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Blackwing
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That's Jagex for you: "do as we say, not as we act"

Another good example of that is how, when a certain RS Youtube content creator started advertising a gambling website without remorse, Jagex permanently banned all the accounts of said person because they found it inappropriate (which it was). Meanwhile though, Treasure Hunter, a textbook example of a predatory gambling machine, is perfectly fine to exist in their eyes.
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01-Dec-2018 09:41:31

Ashlin107
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Man that's almost as good as EA claiming they've developed a "moral compass". Then they proceed to fight for their lootboxes present in FIFA Ultimate Team.

But yea it's clear where Jagex's priorities lie this year. It's not the player base but what the player base can give them. It's green and is the source of Iron Man and Batman's powers.
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01-Dec-2018 10:32:07 - Last edited on 01-Dec-2018 10:32:30 by Ashlin107

Draco Burnz
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Blackwing said:
That's Jagex for you: "do as we say, not as we act"

Another good example of that is how, when a certain RS Youtube content creator started advertising a gambling website without remorse, Jagex permanently banned all the accounts of said person because they found it inappropriate (which it was). Meanwhile though, Treasure Hunter, a textbook example of a predatory gambling machine, is perfectly fine to exist in their eyes.


Like how ppl think TH is still considered gambling.

How many laws around disabling gambling from gaming is it going to take for ppl to learn it isnt...
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01-Dec-2018 22:53:42 - Last edited on 01-Dec-2018 22:54:19 by Draco Burnz

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Draco Burnz said:
Blackwing said:
That's Jagex for you: "do as we say, not as we act"

Another good example of that is how, when a certain RS Youtube content creator started advertising a gambling website without remorse, Jagex permanently banned all the accounts of said person because they found it inappropriate (which it was). Meanwhile though, Treasure Hunter, a textbook example of a predatory gambling machine, is perfectly fine to exist in their eyes.


Like how ppl think TH is still considered gambling.

How many laws around disabling gambling from gaming is it going to take for ppl to learn it isnt...
Hate to go a bit off topic here, but, it CAN be considered gambling. It all depends on perspective.

If you think gambling is betting money in a game of chance, hoping to MAYBE win more money, SPECIFICALLY more money and nothing else, then TH is not gambling.

If you think gambling is betting money in a game of chance, hoping to MAYBE obtain a desirable reward, regardless of what the reward actually is, then TH is gambling.

I consider the latter to be the case. If you lean toward the former, that's fine, but you cannot say there is a definite answer here. The definition of gambling, like many things, depends on perspective. When I see pachinko parlors, I see gambling. When I see those 25 cent machines in grocery stores that have stickers or super crappy figurines in them, encouraging the kiddies to collect them all, I see gambling. Those shitty crane games that are always stacked against the player? Gambling. Just because the prize isn't money, doesn't necessarily mean it isn't gambling. Again, you have your opinion on the matter and that is fine, but you can't just decide that your perspective is the only right one. This is a big debate these days for a reason. It's complicated and needs to be more clearly defined.
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02-Dec-2018 01:48:08

Niyah
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Blackwing said:
That's Jagex for you: "do as we say, not as we act"

Another good example of that is how, when a certain RS Youtube content creator started advertising a gambling website without remorse, Jagex permanently banned all the accounts of said person because they found it inappropriate (which it was). Meanwhile though, Treasure Hunter, a textbook example of a predatory gambling machine, is perfectly fine to exist in their eyes.
Agreed.

Jagex taking the moral high ground when it suits them is comical, when they themselves are exploiting vulnerable people with their predatory tactics.

Treasure Hunter is no different from EA's FIFA's Ultimate Team Cards, or Activision Blizzard's Overwatch's lootboxes. All of which are gambling and are regulated by some countries such as Belgium. Belgium actually bans them outright, as far as I am aware. Though I do not know their stance on RuneScape's microtransactions.

Other western countries will follow suit eventually, in my opinion. It is only a matter of time. I suspect the United Kingdom will be one of the first few, and Jagex will have to comply eventually.

As much as these companies want to cling onto their easy low-effort money schemes, there is only so much people can take before it boils over. There is also a limit to how much money people can give out to various companies.

It would be nice for these companies to be more honest and admit that their schemes are purely there to squeeze as much money out of customers (and whales) as possible. As well as admit to being fine with exploiting people. However, that would mark on them negatively, so they don't have the balls to do so.

Well, except for Ubisoft, who are so ballsy, that they try to defend their insidious ways.

02-Dec-2018 03:11:05 - Last edited on 02-Dec-2018 03:32:46 by Niyah

Draco Burnz
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Peaky said:
. Just because the prize isn't money, doesn't necessarily mean it isn't gambling. Again, you have your opinion on the matter and that is fine, but you can't just decide that your perspective is the only right one. This is a big debate these days for a reason. It's complicated and needs to be more clearly defined.


Yet who said the prize had to be money for th to be gambling?

I mostly say it isnt because you always get a reward.

Now from what i can recall there isnt many actual gambling games that do that for obvious reasons.

Plus just because you hope to get something you want, doesnt mean its gambling.

Thats just you setting yourself for disappointment or called rng.
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03-Dec-2018 01:18:24 - Last edited on 03-Dec-2018 02:38:01 by Draco Burnz

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