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Honestly I don’t really play much anymore because the lack of good updates but I do have a trimmed comp cape on my main that I worked very hard on have 600 days played and have played since classic.

Basically do players even want a comp rework? I feel like it’s a huge blow to my achievements that I have worked for for 15 years. Also do the players who have a comp or trim want it reworked or is it players without wanting better stuff for less work?

1. Do you own comp or trim ?
2. Do you want the rework and why?

Personally that trim cape is the only reason I do buy bonds and play every few months I get my cape back. Feel like if this update is as bad as it sounds I mite just drop all my stuff and be done with rs.

10-Jun-2019 16:29:56

Lord Drakan
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It's a health-of-the-game thing, so it needs to happen irrespective of what players think. There was an official survey about it, though.

But hey, with more frequent requirement additions, you have more reason to play now, don't you? :)
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11-Jun-2019 17:36:02 - Last edited on 11-Jun-2019 17:37:05 by Lord Drakan

Mr Rey Ray
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1. Do you own comp or trim ? Yes

2. Do you want the rework and why? Yes and why is below.

I understand the rework is to help with player growth, so the ones going for the trimmed completionist do not have to play alot of minigames to unlock the profound, HowManyGames Achievment.

However they still have to get POF Log/Sandy/Salty/all champion Scrolls/Chompy kills, so it isn't really making it easier.

The Reaper Crew achievement just stops alot of players who owned a comp cape before the achievement was added to not be able to re-obtain their completionist Cape.

Removing the Reaper off completionist, allows those players to reobtain their cape without buffs.

It also stops players feeling bad about not being able to do bossing for the completionist cape.
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11-Jun-2019 18:13:14

Nex is Life
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pid 54 said:
1. Do you own comp or trim ?
2. Do you want the rework and why?
1. No (70/71 for comp, slayer is a minigame)

2. I wouldn't call it a rework at this point. No I don't want it, apart from them adding requirements from the last few years that should have been there since the content was released but wasn't (Salty/Sandy etc). There is no reason to take content should be taken off because people can't be bothered to do it. Its a big goal for me and for all the people who already have them, lowering the goalposts drains my motivation and desire.

Cwars is an insane req, I personally would like if it were performance-based rather than AFK but it is what it is. Most people who want CWars removed won't go for trim anyway, people who are seriously going for or already have trim will knock it out or already have. Some 2500 have trimmed and at least hundreds more have significant progress on "How many games?" so I don't think it should be removed from trim at this point - people who will trim have shown they will do it. They didn't do it for a halo either.

Reaper there is no reason people can't do, they are just lazy. Most of it, even 0% enrage Telos and Araxxor can be done in legacy with only a couple of inputs a minute. Even easier in revo++. There is no reason people going for comp/trim can't earn appropriate gear such as T90 weapons. The group content argument is also ridiculous, its a damn MMO and you can talk to people. There are so many out there willing to help people learn PvM when people say they can't find teams or nobody wants a learner I know they are either not trying or lying.
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11-Jun-2019 23:31:32

Jordyre
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1. Do you own comp or trim?
I own comp and am 61/65 for trim.

2. Do you want the rework and why?
As Mr. Rey Ray said, there is certainly grounds for a rework and it is needed, yes. But the simplified version of the update is not a rework and simply kicks the can further down the road for what is to happen with a real update that could have been achieved from the less simplified version this replaced.

This accomplishes nothing more than to make trimmed easier to get for those unwilling to put time into a minigame they otherwise would not play. As if because players can't make money from a minigame means they shouldn't be made to play it.

They've never polled this version of the rework and to suggest otherwise is a lie. This update is a complete disservice to the player base who truly sees the value in a rework, but are left with empty hands because Jagex isn't willing to put the work into real change.

It's a disgrace.
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12-Jun-2019 04:15:54

UrekMazino
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1. Do you own comp or trim ?

Yes

2. Do you want the rework and why?

Yes, but as Jordyre mentioned, this simplified designed is not a rework. Mod Jack, one of the Jmods in charge of the rework, said it himself that its not even technically part of his job to do this rework.



Jagex shouldn't have promised something they weren't prepared to deliver, though they done that countless times already, its apparent they never learn their lesson.

The original rework design would've taken longer and more resources, but at least it wasn't going to be at the expense of a large portion of older veteran players. There were flaws in the design, but it would've satisfied more players.
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12-Jun-2019 05:57:19

Rikornak
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69/71 Comp, 56/65 Trim - a few arbritary requirements missing on both capes, along with a few real ones.

Basically in terms of a rework I want a mix of the the altered achievement cape design (the final state we had with trims for combat and comp cape tiers) and the current comp cape related one. If I had to choose I'd prefer the achievement one, but I'd like to see what would supposed to be the legacy comp capes still to be fixed rather than be left to rot in limbo. Also that some activities would award something than just getting a requirement ticked off is a plus as well (i.e. archivist title, CW halos, Champion of Champions title,... - that easily could be extended to other pieces of content as well).

Basically ideally they would do the following:

- Remove every pure achievement (i.e. non-completeable/unlockable) from comp. Reaper and CW were two of them, but there are more remaining.
- Add every piece of completable and unlockable content to the capes, fitting to a specific set of guidelines to either cape. Farm, Menaphos and Arc are three of them, but certainly not all.
- Add achievement capes and titles with 3 tiers and 3 trims on top of a fixed comp cape system - to give players something to aim for than just plain completiotism, the game offers enough weird challenges that can't actually be completed, but make up for a nice little challenge - and on those capes they would actually fit for once.
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12-Jun-2019 07:08:17 - Last edited on 12-Jun-2019 07:11:45 by Rikornak

Jeremy Cheng
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pid 54 said:
Honestly I don’t really play much anymore because the lack of good updates but I do have a trimmed comp cape on my main that I worked very hard on have 600 days played and have played since classic.

Basically do players even want a comp rework? I feel like it’s a huge blow to my achievements that I have worked for for 15 years. Also do the players who have a comp or trim want it reworked or is it players without wanting better stuff for less work?

1. Do you own comp or trim ?
2. Do you want the rework and why?

Personally that trim cape is the only reason I do buy bonds and play every few months I get my cape back. Feel like if this update is as bad as it sounds I mite just drop all my stuff and be done with rs.

If you only play runescape 3 for trim cape, maybe it's time to get max cape in OSRS..

12-Jun-2019 08:39:23

Daibhi
Sep Member 2017

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Jeremy Cheng said:
pid 54 said:
Honestly I don’t really play much anymore because the lack of good updates but I do have a trimmed comp cape on my main that I worked very hard on have 600 days played and have played since classic.

Basically do players even want a comp rework? I feel like it’s a huge blow to my achievements that I have worked for
for 15 years
. Also do the players who have a comp or trim want it reworked or is it players without wanting better stuff for less work?

If you only play runescape 3 for trim cape, maybe it's time to get max cape in OSRS..


That's insane. If I was in their position (bar being comped) which I am, in that I've also played when the only version of this game was RSC, I would laugh at you for even suggesting that. You do realise you've, basically, just said "I know you've done everything, how about doing it all over again from scratch?"

12-Jun-2019 16:47:35

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