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Hex 0mega

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Okay, heres the thing. Runescape has been out for nearly 20 years now and as the game is progressing and coming out with more and more updates that introduce new methods of skilling which should allow us to afk for a bit, we're still boxed into a 3 minute timeframe of unattendance until we are automatically logged out. Now although it was still pretty annoying, it made more sense back in the early days of Runescape becuase every skill required your full, undivided attention and if you weren't providing it, you were obviously a bot and likely trying to abuse the game to earn real money.

Now things are becoming more geared toward afk skilling. Theres the protein items, the new mining update that made it so we no longer have to click anything else at all once we select a rock unless we wanna stay attentive and click the glowing ones, with smithing and it's metal heating process being the same basic concept as far as afk ability. So what I am getting at here is that it no longer makes any sense to have an auto disconnect feature within such a short amount of time. Why make it so skills suggest the ability to go afk while preforming if you're still going to log us out once we actually do go afk?

Just a few minutes ago I set my character up to do my protein memories and then started drawing. I noticed he got done like 15 seconds after the fact and it logged me out before I could even get him going on the next ones. It just seems a bit ridiculous and redundant with the way things are now to still log us out for going afk to do something that doesn't require constant attention. When you are supposed to be clicking around and staying glued to the screen to accomplish what you are doing its one thing, but when you start removing elements from skilling that require the player's full attention, not a lot of people are down to just sit and watch their character do things that don't require any action.

Didn't know if this should go to rants or suggestions, so I put it here
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23-Mar-2019 04:16:49 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2019 04:24:34 by Hex 0mega

CuddleBucket
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Yeah I agree it's annoying when like you just get back from making a coffee or whatever & you've logged out.
I'd support extending it to 10 minutes, & I'd like to hear Jagex's thoughts on this in principle and practice.

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23-Mar-2019 09:37:34

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The logout timer is five minutes I believ, not three. Also, they're protean items, not protein items, we're not using any steroids.

Having no logout timer or a longer one would be similar to botting: you're not really doing it yourself as you could be elsewhere for a long time when your character is training.
I find five minutes already quite generous.

It's perfectly fine to set an alarm on your pc or smartphone that counts down from 4:40 or something to help you remember to do the next thing. I've done something similar to collect the Valkery feathers every three minutes.
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23-Mar-2019 18:59:44 - Last edited on 23-Mar-2019 19:00:05 by Kings Abbot

Hex 0mega

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You're missing the point here... If you're gonna have a logout timer, why even make skills that do themselves? No offense to Jagex, but thats a bit half assed. If you are going to have to literally set a timer, thats insane. I wanna either be having to sit and be focused on the game, or have my character do something while I do something else, not somewhere in between. That makes absolutely no sense.

Its boring to sit and watch your character do stuff for 5 minutes at a time and sit idley by, and you can't do something else where you'll be engaged for more than 5 minutes or you'll log out. Thats ridiculous. I'm not about to set a timer for five minutes every time I wanna work on a skill...

At the very least, Cuddlebucket's idea for 10 minutes would be great and a bit more forgiving.
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24-Mar-2019 01:19:09 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2019 01:23:04 by Hex 0mega

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I'd support this idea if PvP were a thing and I could pk u while u're making coffee.

I no support this idea completely.

I find that this idea pushes any possibility of PvP further away.
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24-Mar-2019 01:37:02 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2019 06:26:46 by Never RIP

Ethereal199
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Hex 0mega said:
You're missing the point here... If you're gonna have a logout timer, why even make skills that do themselves? No offense to Jagex, but thats a bit half assed. If you are going to have to literally set a timer, thats insane. I wanna either be having to sit and be focused on the game, or have my character do something while I do something else, not somewhere in between. That makes absolutely no sense.

Its boring to sit and watch your character do stuff for 5 minutes at a time and sit idley by, and you can't do something else where you'll be engaged for more than 5 minutes or you'll log out. Thats ridiculous. I'm not about to set a timer for five minutes every time I wanna work on a skill...


No, you're missing the point. The 5 minute automatic logout timer is there to make sure players are still engaged with the game. Increasing the logout timer, just moves the game closer towards gameplay being similar to botting. I know you would argue that botting already bypassing this logout timer, but using bots risks getting your account banned. Players who actually value their in game progress would not risk using bots anyway.

Onto AFK skilling, it makes skilling more bearable. More intense skilling is boring for the majority of players (see Fishing Frenzy as an example of how dead it is). That's why players who are skilled enough would rather do things to cut down the time spent skilling (buy TH keys, use silverhawk boots, etc) to get the boring content out of the way so that they can do something fun, such as high level bossing.

Yes, it's boring watching your character doing something AFK, but there are tools you can use (see Alt1 toolkit) to warn you when the 5 minute logout timer is about to expire, so you can keep yourself logged in by interacting with the client. The default 60 actions for protean items isn't long enough (the longest is 288 seconds) for you to get logged out from 5 minutes of inactivity.
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24-Mar-2019 02:45:23

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Engaging with content isn't botting, you're simply using a buzzword to try & paint it as something negative, when it actually has nothing to do with it.

Botting is having another program play the game for you, not interacting with content normally, which is being discussed here.

For you to say standing there clicking a rock & not pressing a button for 5 minutes is fine, but if you do it for 6 minutes it's like botting, is not only completely arbitrary because everyone will draw that line in a different place, it's also just completely factually inaccurate.

We're talking about engaging with the content, if you are claiming Jagex is making bot-like content, take that up with them.

Would you be happy if the game logged you out after 10 seconds of inactivity?

So we want the same thing, we just have the line in different places.
You like it as it is, that's fine.
I'm saying the way the game has evolved lends itself to afk activities, & sometimes 5 minutes is just that minute or 2 short for fairly common activities like making some coffee.

I have a more complicated suggestion but I won't propose it here so as not to hijack this thread, but I think extending the current system a few minutes wouldn't hurt.
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24-Mar-2019 09:13:42

Draco Burnz
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Ethereal199 said:


No, you're missing the point. The 5 minute automatic logout timer is there to make sure players are still engaged with the game. Increasing the logout timer, just moves the game closer towards gameplay being similar to botting. I know you would argue that botting already bypassing this logout timer, but using bots risks getting your account banned. Players who actually value their in game progress would not risk using bots anyway.

Onto AFK skilling, it makes skilling more bearable. More intense skilling is boring for the majority of players (see Fishing Frenzy as an example of how dead it is). That's why players who are skilled enough would rather do things to cut down the time spent skilling (buy TH keys, use silverhawk boots, etc) to get the boring content out of the way so that they can do something fun, such as high level bossing.

Yes, it's boring watching your character doing something AFK, but there are tools you can use (see Alt1 toolkit) to warn you when the 5 minute logout timer is about to expire, so you can keep yourself logged in by interacting with the client. The default 60 actions for protean items isn't long enough (the longest is 288 secon


Agreed.

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24-Mar-2019 10:24:51 - Last edited on 24-Mar-2019 10:25:18 by Draco Burnz

Hex 0mega

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Plus if I type shit twice with horrible mobile site navigation I can't erase it so I officialy hate hte forums. "Crawling from hell
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25-Mar-2019 03:32:28 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 03:36:19 by Hex 0mega

Hex 0mega

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I can't f*ckin win on these forums, I swear to Christ. I can bring up valid crap and everyone and their brother jumps right up my ass no matter what I say, so f*ck it. Not using them anymore. The way the logout is with the skills being a half assed amount of auto makes no sense WHATSOEVER, but okay. You win. Wtf ever. I give up and I'll just keep shit to myself I guess. "Crawling from hell
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25-Mar-2019 03:34:44 - Last edited on 25-Mar-2019 03:40:17 by Hex 0mega

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