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Pikachu78
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Draco Burnz said:
Zarudon said:


They polled whether or not holiday items for LP should happen twice IIRC and both times it failed.

So I don't see that happening.


i Dont know what your talking about the poll passed 59% yes 40% no this isnt oldschool where 75% is needed to be considered success ,this poll to pass needed more yes then no which it got , so stop spreading false info just because you dont like this brilliant idea that should happen of the return of items
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17-Apr-2019 05:15:30

Draco Burnz
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Pikachu78 said:


Uhh, love how ppl like this always leave out the most important part of the holiday item poll.

Ppl of course complained about it afterwards and got jagex to make sure it never happened.

So yes, it did fail even though it did "pass" the poll.

So you're the one spreading false info by talking about something you don't even know what it is.

Plz actually do your research before posting.
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Pikachu78
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Prople were complaining that there was no update on the status of them since itpassed and your wrong people do want it ,take for instabce the 2016 xmas event were the past events were repeated but noone could get the proper rewards from it for completing itthey were complaining that they couldn’t get em so there is high demand for em so ur the one spreading the false info just cause you dont want people to enjoy the items as they were intended i know you dont want to admit it draco but the community doesn’t want discounted items anymore in fact they were trying to change holdiay items in old school to discounted abd the community said no
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19-Apr-2019 16:18:28

Blackwing
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Pikachu78 said:
i Dont know what your talking about the poll passed 59% yes 40% no this isnt oldschool where 75% is needed to be considered success ,this poll to pass needed more yes then no which it got , so stop spreading false info just because you dont like this brilliant idea that should happen of the return of items

I pointed this out for you already earlier ITT, but Jagex realized that having a 50% yes threshold for stuff like this to pass was too controversial, so they increased it to 75% even for RS3: as an example, the ninja fixes survey #2 poll in 2018 required 75% yes votes for the stuff listed in it to pass, whereas the loyalty point poll took place as far back as 2014. It's outdated to imply that the 75% yes threshold is just an OSRS thing, because it's not.

The 75% yes threshold simply works better, because it ensures that whatever changes/content is polled to be done, the vast majority is convinced it's good and thus it's much more likely that as many consequences as possible have been thought of. Having a 50-74% majority still leaves a massive opposition, even if it's smaller than the 50-74% majority.

You don't want to hear it, but the loyalty point poll didn't get 59% yes votes because people adamantly wanted the discontinued items -- it got that percentage because there was no penalty for people without those items to vote no. When you lose out on nothing by voting yes, why vote no, even if you don't particularly care? E.g. if the players who voted yes would have been forced to buy a past holiday item with loyalty points, I guarantee you many would've either not voted or voted no, because there are tons of cosmetics in the game already, and loyalty points are much more usefully spent on auras.
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19-Apr-2019 17:23:00

Blackwing
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Pikachu78 said:
the community doesn’t want discounted items anymore in fact they were trying to change holdiay items in old school to discounted abd the community said no

I love how you told Draco to stop spreading false information, whilst you're doing a great job with it yourself: untradeable discontinued items would have passed the poll in OSRS, if the poll hadn't been a mere information gathering poll.

Here, I'll link the poll for you:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poll:Holiday_Events_Opinion_Poll

Now, go look at those numbers: only 23.9% voted no for untradeable discontinued items, which is less than the 25% no needed to fail a poll. For tradeable discontinued items, only 25.4% voted no, so it would've still failed by 0.4%, but it would've been very close to passing. In fact, with the 50% threshold, the one that you're seemingly supporting here, even tradeable discontinued items would've passed the poll in OSRS.

Also, to be clear: the loyalty point poll was held in 2014, and the holiday event poll was held in the beginning of September 2018. That's a massive difference in how relevant the data is, and the most recent data shows that Runescape players prefer to have discontinued holiday items.
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19-Apr-2019 17:28:59

Pikachu78
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Poll passed to rerelease items and info poll to introduce discounted items failed so it’s obvious g. End of story it passed and we need updates on. Its just a cosmetic override and not the actual item so it shouldn’t matter that they are being rereleased in solomons store , Oh no my item has been devalued when it hasnt you still still have ur item plus youd want these new overrides cause then u can use those spots for other things on ur person ir inventory . Them rereleaseing the untradea to solomons does no harm think of it like an item replica we aren’t getting the real thing just a copy of it which is very reasonable.
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19-Apr-2019 21:03:15

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Blackwing said:
Pikachu78 said:
the community doesn’t want discounted items anymore in fact they were trying to change holdiay items in old school to discounted abd the community said no

I love how you told Draco to stop spreading false information, whilst you're doing a great job with it yourself: untradeable discontinued items would have passed the poll in OSRS, if the poll hadn't been a mere information gathering poll.

Here, I'll link the poll for you:
https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Poll:Holiday_Events_Opinion_Poll

Now, go look at those numbers: only 23.9% voted no for untradeable discontinued items, which is less than the 25% no needed to fail a poll. For tradeable discontinued items, only 25.4% voted no, so it would've still failed by 0.4%, but it would've been very close to passing. In fact, with the 50% threshold, the one that you're seemingly supporting here, even tradeable discontinued items would've passed the poll in OSRS.

Also, to be clear: the loyalty point poll was held in 2014, and the holiday event poll was held in the beginning of September 2018. That's a massive difference in how relevant the data is, and the most recent data shows that Runescape players prefer to have discontinued holiday items.


Couldn't agree more.

Well said :)

20-Apr-2019 11:35:59

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Oh, this is still going on? Well... obviously I still support.

It does nothing to prove anything that matters by keeping them tied to a forgotten event.

Nobody cares if you did participate in any event from any year. And even if they did, you are not affected because a Solomon's copy is different than the items you got from the event. So brag all you want, loser. Let people wear cosmetics, let people buy them. It does nothing against you or anybody else.

Who gives a crap about a previous poll that doesn't meet Blackwings standards. It passed anyway and it only didn't pass those standards because it wasn't worded that they'd be noticeably different to anybody who gives a crap.

They worded it like a cash grab scam and it still passed 50%, it will pass 75 when it's worded correctly.

Oh, and once again, get over yourselves. :) bunch of crybabies over people wanting old cosmetics. That's sad.
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17-May-2019 03:51:20

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No one wants to meet halfway.

For instance people have talked about doing something like gaining points and you
would have to choose which nontradeable item you wanted.

Then I personally suggested that they could put the year it was obtained on anything
not gotten the original year. Or put "copy" on the ones that they would be giving
out now. And i put copy on new ones only because it would probably be easier
than going back and putting "original" on the ones obtained the original year.

No one is happy with any options. You cannot make everyone happy.
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18-May-2019 01:17:28

Draco Burnz
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Whatusaytome said:


Who gives a crap about a previous poll that doesn't meet Blackwings standards. It passed anyway and it only didn't pass those standards because it wasn't worded that they'd be noticeably different to anybody who gives a crap.


Love how you always say the poll "passed" when it didn't happen.

So one can say if a poll didn't happen it didn't pass. ;)
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