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Penguin Lord
Jan Member 2019

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I mean think about it. Boat loads of "QOL" updates, when in reality they're renamed ezscape updates.

Twice now - twice - we've had absolutely broken drop tables added for no reason whatsoever.

Now there's random unpolled changes because of a dumb, 5 minute, pointless novice quest. Changes to areas that should be left alone, but for no reason at all get even more cluttered than they should be. Lumbridge castle shouldn't even have a bank on top of it. Lumbridge has a bank: for becoming a member, and beginning a quest.

What's all this sound like? It sounds like RS3. Since the OSRS community's goal has always been 2010 scape, we may as well add summoning and dungeoneering back to the game.

09-Feb-2019 08:09:05 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2019 22:27:09 by Penguin Lord

Iron Robsham
Aug Gold Premier Club Member 2018

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I've never understood the seemingly quite widespread belief that every single change that happened to the game between 2007 and EoC is RS3 and therefore bad, no matter how good, or small, or insignificant it was. Sure, the overall direction was definitely very bad, and there are some massive updates that can be pointed at as being the harbingers of RS3 (summoning). But is a new pub in lumbridge really game breaking?

I suppose it depends on how much you value the nostalgia factor. Personally, I play this game because I love what it is right now, not because I'm trying to replicate something from over a decade ago for the sake of nostalgia.

Even back in the day, RS was never a static, unchanging world, and in my mind OSRS shouldn't be either. Instead it should be a new branch from a point before RS2 went to shit, that is developed in the right way, as RS2 should have been from the start.

Edit: though I agree with you about the drop tables. IMO Jagex should default to making them weak, and then try to bring them up with slight incremental buffs, rather than releasing them strong and then reacting to the shit storm.
Anyone that wants catering to make ironman easier should be renamed wannabe-man and have their ironman icon replaced with a dunce hat.

09-Feb-2019 08:39:39 - Last edited on 09-Feb-2019 08:44:17 by Iron Robsham

Notcool97
Dec Member 2016

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Iron Robsham said:
I've never understood the seemingly quite widespread belief that every single change that happened to the game between 2007 and EoC is RS3 and therefore bad, no matter how good, or small, or insignificant it was. Sure, the overall direction was definitely very bad, and there are some massive updates that can be pointed at as being the harbingers of RS3 (summoning). But is a new pub in lumbridge really game breaking?

I suppose it depends on how much you value the nostalgia factor. Personally, I play this game because I love what it is right now, not because I'm trying to replicate something from over a decade ago for the sake of nostalgia.

Even back in the day, RS was never a static, unchanging world, and in my mind OSRS shouldn't be either. Instead it should be a new branch from a point before RS2 went to shit, that is developed in the right way, as RS2 should have been from the start.

Edit: though I agree with you about the drop tables. IMO Jagex should default to making them weak, and then try to bring them up with slight incremental buffs, rather than releasing them strong and then reacting to the shit storm.
I think the main point was that it was unpolled. They just casually added stuff to an iconic area without saying anything or asking anyone whether they wanted that. It's like how they casually add a skill-devaluing amount of resources to droptables whenever they feel it needs a buff or it needs to be more ironman-friendly, as ironmen don't like to actually need to chop trees for logs, fish fishing spots for fish, or mine rocks for ore. They don't like to gather gather-able ingredients, farm farmable herbs smith their own bars etc so Jagex chucks them all onto droptables in their hundreds, and I don't believe that has ever been polled.

09-Feb-2019 09:37:29

Iron Robsham
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Notcool97 said:
I think the main point was that it was unpolled. They just casually added stuff to an iconic area without saying anything or asking anyone whether they wanted that. It's like how they casually add a skill-devaluing amount of resources to droptables whenever they feel it needs a buff or it needs to be more ironman-friendly, as ironmen don't like to actually need to chop trees for logs, fish fishing spots for fish, or mine rocks for ore. They don't like to gather gather-able ingredients, farm farmable herbs smith their own bars etc so Jagex chucks them all onto droptables in their hundreds, and I don't believe that has ever been polled.


Ohh right, yeah I can accept that; even if the change itself isn't a big deal, it not being polled is.

I hate the catering to ironmen more than anything, simply because it devalues the whole concept of ironman.
Anyone that wants catering to make ironman easier should be renamed wannabe-man and have their ironman icon replaced with a dunce hat.

09-Feb-2019 10:44:48

Str8cashjigg

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Iron Robsham said:
Notcool97 said:
I think the main point was that it was unpolled. They just casually added stuff to an iconic area without saying anything or asking anyone whether they wanted that. It's like how they casually add a skill-devaluing amount of resources to droptables whenever they feel it needs a buff or it needs to be more ironman-friendly, as ironmen don't like to actually need to chop trees for logs, fish fishing spots for fish, or mine rocks for ore. They don't like to gather gather-able ingredients, farm farmable herbs smith their own bars etc so Jagex chucks them all onto droptables in their hundreds, and I don't believe that has ever been polled.


Ohh right, yeah I can accept that; even if the change itself isn't a big deal, it not being polled is.

I hate the catering to ironmen more than anything, simply because it devalues the whole concept of ironman.


Basically. Also, one more thing. Some of us liked 95% of RS3 content but think it was executed poorly such as how RS3 kinda just forgot how some quest lines existed and only expanded on the gods and shit. That's why I loved Demonic Gorillas more than Tormented Demons even though they're the exact same (especially since we ended up getting dragon claws in game anyways).
The ditch is gonna get endless repolls while sand buckets can pass the first poll and never be implemented. After the ditch passes the 7th poll attempt, it'll be implemented an hour before the poll closes because it's actually important. Deal with it.

09-Feb-2019 14:15:16

Str8cashjigg

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@OP

Finally someone else who sees it. Add resting and overloads to the list too.
The ditch is gonna get endless repolls while sand buckets can pass the first poll and never be implemented. After the ditch passes the 7th poll attempt, it'll be implemented an hour before the poll closes because it's actually important. Deal with it.

09-Feb-2019 14:16:05

Str8cashjigg

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And the only damn thing that ruined this piece of shit game was how they made cooking more realistic on Tutorial Island. Gf nostalgia. The ditch is gonna get endless repolls while sand buckets can pass the first poll and never be implemented. After the ditch passes the 7th poll attempt, it'll be implemented an hour before the poll closes because it's actually important. Deal with it.

09-Feb-2019 14:16:58

Str8cashjigg

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Notcool97 said:
Iron Robsham said:
I've never understood the seemingly quite widespread belief that every single change that happened to the game between 2007 and EoC is RS3 and therefore bad, no matter how good, or small, or insignificant it was. Sure, the overall direction was definitely very bad, and there are some massive updates that can be pointed at as being the harbingers of RS3 (summoning). But is a new pub in lumbridge really game breaking?

I suppose it depends on how much you value the nostalgia factor. Personally, I play this game because I love what it is right now, not because I'm trying to replicate something from over a decade ago for the sake of nostalgia.

Even back in the day, RS was never a static, unchanging world, and in my mind OSRS shouldn't be either. Instead it should be a new branch from a point before RS2 went to shit, that is developed in the right way, as RS2 should have been from the start.

Edit: though I agree with you about the drop tables. IMO Jagex should default to making them weak, and then try to bring them up with slight incremental buffs, rather than releasing them strong and then reacting to the shit storm.
I think the main point was that it was unpolled. They just casually added stuff to an iconic area without saying anything or asking anyone whether they wanted that. It's like how they casually add a skill-devaluing amount of resources to droptables whenever they feel it needs a buff or it needs to be more ironman-friendly, as ironmen don't like to actually need to chop trees for logs, fish fishing spots for fish, or mine rocks for ore. They don't like to gather gather-able ingredients, farm farmable herbs smith their own bars etc so Jagex chucks them all onto droptables in their hundreds, and I don't believe that has ever been polled.


Don't forget battlestaffs!!! At this point they should at least add a GE tax and lower it when more Varrock diaries
The ditch is gonna get endless repolls while sand buckets can pass the first poll and never be implemented. After the ditch passes the 7th poll attempt, it'll be implemented an hour before the poll closes because it's actually important. Deal with it.

09-Feb-2019 14:18:04

Str8cashjigg

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Are done to revive that dead content. The ditch is gonna get endless repolls while sand buckets can pass the first poll and never be implemented. After the ditch passes the 7th poll attempt, it'll be implemented an hour before the poll closes because it's actually important. Deal with it.

09-Feb-2019 14:18:15

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