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G o z z
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Suggestion: if there are massive issues in the tournament, could we please get an update as to what's happening? I get that on one of the Twitter accounts they mentioned that there were issues, but could we get an actual update?

Instakilling half the players, only being able to get a few people back into the game, healing stage players to full HP and prayer mid fight, etc. are all massive issues and I think that it'd be nice to be more transparent and just show a bit of respect to the community. A lot of people took the week off work to play the tournament and then get treated very disrespectfully.

A clan held down Shilo Village the entire tournament and the Jagex pretty much screwed them over.

Now, I'm not pro-clans or anti-jagex, but it would be great to show a bit of respect towards the community and just be a bit more transparent. Everyone makes mistakes (although most companies have QA testing to catch stuff like this), but not everyone acts how Jagex has in this case.
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31-Mar-2019 03:26:04

FisherGaming

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This isn't really a suggestion for Old School Runescape content. This is probably better suited in the General Discussion subforum.

That said...

G o z z said:
could we please get an update as to what's happening? I get that on one of the Twitter accounts they mentioned that there were issues, but could we get an actual update?
What sort of update do you need, exactly?

We already know what happened. They already dealt with the problem. What more are you expecting?

G o z z said:
Instakilling half the players, only being able to get a few people back into the game, healing stage players to full HP and prayer mid fight, etc. are all massive issues and I think that it'd be nice to be more transparent
Transparent in what regard?

Are you wanting to know the exact line of code they forgot to close a bracket on that caused a bunch of errors, or something? Shit went awry.

G o z z said:
just show a bit of respect to the community. A lot of people took the week off work to play the tournament and then get treated very disrespectfully.
How are unintended errors like this disrespectful?

Jagex went out of their way to try and resolve the issue for as many people affected as possible. They're simply asking that people like you don't grab your pitchforks and burn them alive for something that wasn't supposed to happen; they're asking for your patience and understanding. That's not disrespectful.

What's disrespectful is the amount of vitriol that they received on social media over this issue.

G o z z said:
A clan held down Shilo Village the entire tournament and the Jagex pretty much screwed them over.
Imagine my shock when a gamemode that is meant to be about individual skill doesn't reward a group of people trying to screw everyone else over.

A clan got screwed? Good. Clans ruin DMM.
I'll keep score from now on.
A: 3 | M: -1 | Tr: 0 | Tu: -2 |

31-Mar-2019 03:52:36

G o z z
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1) I don't think the FMods actually care about the difference between content suggestions and suggestions. But thanks for the suggestion...

2) Please link me to the announcement, news post, or forum post about what happened. Did they get all players back in the gear they had? Did they get all players back into the game at all? Did they state what is happening with the prize money in any news posts? I'm unsure where you got your information, but I'd be happy to have a look when you provide a link to some official communication.

3) Well actually telling the community what happened instead of lying would be one solution, but I guess you're okay with Jagex lying?

4) No they didn't lol. Coming up with solutions that screw over your community = respectful? I respectfully disagree. Once again, link me to the official news post or announcement about this. Nice try though. Also, I'm not sure what your issue is with people being upset over losing an entire week of grinding just because Jagex doesn't do QA testing.

5) So you're now being disrespectful toward clans, just as Jagex has been. Congratulations.
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31-Mar-2019 04:01:40

FisherGaming

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G o z z said:
1) I don't think the FMods actually care about the difference between content suggestions and suggestions. But thanks for the suggestion...
They do. It's rather important that suggestions posted here are actually about content in the game.

This isn't really a suggestion about the game, at all. You're making suggestions regarding community interaction, which is more to do with the company or its staff, rather than the game or its content.

G o z z said:
Please link me to the announcement, news post, or forum post about what happened.
Why do you need a post regarding this?

Is it not enough that the issue was dealt with?

G o z z said:
Did they get all players back into the game at all?
From what we've been told, not every player affected was dealt with yet.

G o z z said:
Did they state what is happening with the prize money in any news posts?
Nope.

G o z z said:
Well actually telling the community what happened instead of lying would be one solution, but I guess you're okay with Jagex lying?
When did they lie about this? What are you talking about?

G o z z said:
Coming up with solutions that screw over your community = respectful?
I'd say the errors that occurred are more responsible for screwing over the community than Jagex's attempts to fix them.

How exactly is Jagex trying to fix this "screwing over their community?"

Also, I never said it was respectful; I said it wasn't disrespectful. No one at Jagex has come out and said "shut up, morons. No cares about you whiny losers and your endless river of tears. We messed up. Deal with it."

However, they've been the recipient of such comments.
I'll keep score from now on.
A: 3 | M: -1 | Tr: 0 | Tu: -2 |

31-Mar-2019 04:18:08

FisherGaming

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G o z z said:
I'm not sure what your issue is with people being upset over losing an entire week of grinding just because Jagex doesn't do QA testing.
I have no issue with people being upset about that.

It's perfectly reasonable that people are upset over this pretty colossal mistake. However, that doesn't warrant personal attacks or disrespectful comments.

G o z z said:
So you're now being disrespectful toward clans, just as Jagex has been. Congratulations.
Jagex wasn't disrespectful to clans at any point.

Not catering to them or their attempts to ruin the gamemode for everyone else is not "disrespect."

Jagex won't be disrespectful to clans, but I have no issue saying that they are the primary reason DMM is horrible. Most people agree with me. Clans are bad for DMM. Any and all attempts by clans to ruin DMM for other people being thwarted is a GOOD THING, whether the clans like it or not.

I don't care if they took a week out of their lives to ruin the fun for everyone else and their efforts were wasted. I feel good about that.

A clan of people tried to screw everyone else over and Jagex said "not happening?" Good.
I'll keep score from now on.
A: 3 | M: -1 | Tr: 0 | Tu: -2 |

31-Mar-2019 04:22:23

G o z z
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Hi clans, we understand that you played within the rules. We understand that you held a certain area of the game to increase your chances of winning. But sorry, we didn't do any QA testing and then we made everyone on equal footing despite people starting out with different gear, stats, prayers.

Absolutely not screwing over that clan. Thanks for the insight, FisherGaming.
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31-Mar-2019 04:45:49 - Last edited on 31-Mar-2019 04:46:14 by G o z z

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G o z z said:
Hi clans, we understand that you played within the rules. We understand that you held a certain area of the game to increase your chances of winning. But sorry, we didn't do any QA testing and then we made everyone on equal footing despite people starting out with different gear, stats, prayers.
Hello, clans. We understand that you're so bad at PvP you can't win in a 1v1 so you have to sabotage others' chances by teaming up against them in massively unfair fights despite the tournament ultimately only being won by a single person and blocking them from entering important areas vital to obtaining useful PvP Prayers.

We understand that this is actually a tournament meant to be played by individuals but is ruined by clans making it near impossible to stay competitive. We know this is the kind of gameplay you prefer because you'd have absolutely no chance of winning if you played fairly.

Fortunately, most of the community doesn't like you and thinks you ruin the gamemode, so we're more than happy to bypass your efforts to ruin everyone else's fun and sabotage a competitive tournament.

Hopefully you understand have absolutely no valid leg to stand on to complain about this, because ultimately we are making it more fair by giving everyone an equal footing in what is meant to be a competitive tournament won through skill, not through numbers.

Also, we're sure you're aware this is our game and a tournament hosted and run by us, so we can make whatever changes we like, and just because you played within the rules doesn't mean we're doing anything wrong by fixing the problems you've caused this gamemode and the community.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

G o z z said:
Absolutely not screwing over that clan. Thanks for the insight, FisherGaming.
A clan trying to screw other overs gets screwed over. It's a good thing.

I have no sympathy for them, honestly.
I'll keep score from now on.
A: 3 | M: -1 | Tr: 0 | Tu: -2 |

31-Mar-2019 05:03:18

G o z z
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Uwotm8? Your argument is legitimately that you dislike clans and think that DMMT is a solo tournament so it's fine for Jagex to allow clans to spend a week straight playing inline with the rules and spirit of the game and then fuck them over by making all the effort worth nothing? And it also makes it fine for Jagex to decrease some people's stats and gear but increase other's stats and gear? Let me guess, you were also okay with Jagex restarting a 1v1 where a stage player was getting destroyed but then randomly had his HP and prayer set to full and was then teleported out? He was going to lose. Then randomly he got full HP and prayer. Then he got teleported out 30 seconds later and the 1v1 was restarted with full supplies. But I'm sure that's fine because Jagex reserves the right to do whatever they want, correct?

Jesus Christ lmfao. Clear that you're trolling to try and get this thread closed.
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31-Mar-2019 05:31:31

G o z z
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Hello, we have decided to make a JMod the winner of the tournament with no PvP at all! But because we are running the competition this is fair! Thank you for playing! XForum Revenge - Forum Help is not the place for you to try and get revenge. You shouldn't be reporting players who have reported you, the forums should be an adult and civil place, so please don't misuse this. || No talking negative about anything that F Mods support please!

31-Mar-2019 05:33:04

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Also, were all instakilled competitors sent messages to their inbox about how they needed to log in at a certain time? Was an official announcement made on the osrs webpage? What about a news release in the news section of the website? XForum Revenge - Forum Help is not the place for you to try and get revenge. You shouldn't be reporting players who have reported you, the forums should be an adult and civil place, so please don't misuse this. || No talking negative about anything that F Mods support please!

31-Mar-2019 05:42:45

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