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Mage Slays

Mage Slays

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The meta has been Range > AGS for over four years now. Nothing can compete with the success of that combo in the longrun because of the massive DPS of ranged and the +100% accuracy multiplier of the AGS special attack. This is further enhanced by the fact that XP drops exist to know exactly when the opportune time is to switch and get a maximum stack. There is no guesswork.


A few problems with PvP

1) Top tier PvP item values abysmally low
- 20m or less for most top tier items. Ballistas are barely 600k.
2) Risk:Reward nonexistent
- Range > AGS meta risks black d'hide chaps while using the most powerful PvP weapon in the game.
3) No variety
- Go ahead: try something else. You might do ok, but you will never compete at the same level unless you are actively tribriding.


The Soltuion


Disable the "Protect Item" prayer in all PvP worlds and the wilderness.

Yup; it's time to make this prayer a sweet sweet PvM prayer only.

BUT MAGE, THEN SMITE IS USELESS

Yes. Yes it is. But if it fixes an issue, c'est la vie!

GWD cornered the PvP meta. There was no proper progression of tiered equipment. The largest catalyst in strengthening the issue was the third party client releases of XP drops on screen. This later became a forced addition to the official OSRS client because it created an advantage so large that it could not be stood against if one player did not have access to it.


If a player truly wishes to use superior equipment, then they should be willing to risk that equipment for the sake of having the advantage. That is how Risk:Reward is supposed to work. This will be a very fun change of pace and meta! We may even see the days ahead of us where the entire wilderness is actively explored by common players.



In the spirit of the intent of the wilderness, let's risk everything in PvP.




Mage Slays

27-Feb-2019 06:35:47 - Last edited on 28-Feb-2019 22:14:23 by Mage Slays

FisherGaming

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Mage Slays said:
Disable the "Protect Item" prayer in all PvP worlds and the wilderness.
High Risk worlds already exist. People don't use them.

This won't solve anything. If anything, it will make PvP even less popular because people don't want to PvP without a +1.
I'll keep score from now on.
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27-Feb-2019 07:50:23

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27-Feb-2019 07:53:27

Mini Jaydos

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Non +1 worlds are dead because similarly to poker where the fish prop up the whole industry, the noobs prop up pking and they don't want to pk without their +1s the only thing enabling them to cheese kills.

This would be fine but because runescape is a pvp and pvm game and no weapons are banned from pvp, it's not the most balanced pvp scene in the slightest.

27-Feb-2019 08:48:28 - Last edited on 27-Feb-2019 08:52:03 by Mini Jaydos

FisherGaming

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Mini Jaydos said:
Non +1 worlds are dead because similarly to poker where the fish prop up the whole industry, the noobs prop up pking and they don't want to pk without their +1s the only thing enabling them to cheese kills.
if that's how you want to justify it, that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that most PvPers don't want to PvP without a +1.

Furthermore, this would never pass because non-PvPers in the Wilderness use their +1, as well.
I'll keep score from now on.
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27-Feb-2019 08:53:33

Mini Jaydos

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Non pvpers don't skull and with the low price of ags and how overpowered it is for example, you should have to risk it.

The ags is broken even before you start using it in conjunction with an msb.

27-Feb-2019 08:57:00 - Last edited on 27-Feb-2019 08:59:34 by Mini Jaydos

FisherGaming

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Mini Jaydos said:
Non pvpers don't skull
So what? The Prayer works even if you're not skulled. They still use the Protect Item prayer so they can bring 4 items to do content in the Wilderness.

Mini Jaydos said:
with the low price of ags and how overpowered it is for example, you should have to risk it.
The price is out of Jagex's hands, though. This is a ridiculous standard. The Toxic Blowpipe is an even better item and is cheaper than the Armadyl Godsword, yet it isn't a consideration in your mind.

You're too focused on content you care about to consider how this affects everyone else.

You're clearly just upset you didn't get someone's Armadyl Godsword after killing them. I have some tips for you: Use Smite or go to High Risk worlds to PvP. You already have solutions to your problem.

This suggestion is useless, and would be a negative for the vast majority of all players, PvPers and non-PvPers alike.
I'll keep score from now on.
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27-Feb-2019 09:08:57

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