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Big Storms

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Hmm interesting. I must admit I did not see any issues the first time I read though this new lore.

That being said, this is a discussion worth having. The portion of the lore which struck me as odd was Guthix being partially unaware of Seren chosing to shatter herself, despite having us tell him that very thing in within the light.
However, after some lore delving it is not as weird as it seems. When we meet Guthix in the past he already made the choice to banish the gods:

Guthix
Forgive me, I do not know the words you use to count down the ages. Since we are known to one another, perhaps I can tell you what is going on in Gielinor now. This...wonderful...world has been besieged by younger gods. They have brought with them their wars, their cruelties and their callousness. The people of Gielinor have suffered enough, I have no choice but to banish the other gods. All of them.


As such it should not be weird that he expects to banish Seren as well with that. Only then do we tell him Seren had chosen to shatter herself:

Player:
I've come on behalf of the elves. We need to know how we can restore Seren.

Guthix:
Restore? I'm afraid I do not understand...


Player:
When you demand she leaves she will choose to shatter herself into crystals rather than abandon the elves.

Guthix:
Seren... Such incredible sacrifice. Her bond to the elves may be unbreakable, but I cannot discriminate. Gielinor must be safe from the wrath of gods. It is the only way.



So basically the dark memory is an exact reflection of Guthix his chain of thoughts during within the light: he first thinks he will be banishing all gods, including Seren, only to then hear from the World Gaurdian Seren choses a different path. The lore fits perfectly in fact, better than I expected.
"One should not mindlessly follow gods or the godless:
follow
your
own
path
"
~Big Storms

12-Jun-2018 10:41:03 - Last edited on 12-Jun-2018 10:42:27 by Big Storms

Big Storms

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When it comes to Guthix relation to Seren, I think there are multiple reasons why he voices his feelings as such. As people already said, this is partly his way of coping with the act of abandoning her, in a way rationalizing it.

Second, I do believe his relation with Seren was a rather difficult on for him, for he had a wife before that. In a way he betrayed his wife by loving Seren, and it is this feeling of guilt that is reflected in the memory as well, again trying to rationalize his actions to not make them seem like he is betraying his former wife.

Third, it is not weird that in all his eons of existence, Guthix has experienced so much grief (the loss of his family, the many mortals he outlived, the choices he had to make which ended up sacrificing one thing to save another), that he, while still having great respect for life, grew very distant. I mean him going to sleep is basically him trying to disconnect himself from others. It is then not so weird to think that, while he enjoyed his time with Seren, for him it was not so difficult to sever ties like this as he had done many times before.
"One should not mindlessly follow gods or the godless:
follow
your
own
path
"
~Big Storms

12-Jun-2018 10:55:42 - Last edited on 12-Jun-2018 10:55:52 by Big Storms

Big Storms

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Finally, the Edicts memory does indeed seem odd at first sight: these are not the words one would expect coming from someone who has experienced a god releasing the equivalent of a nuke. The way how this would still make sense is that while said scorching of Forinthry is what drove him to actually perform the act of banishing the gods, his decision was already made before that.
In other words, when we meet Guthix during within the light, the god wars are raging yet Forinthry has not yet been destroyed. These wars mainly consisted out of Gods commanding armies of mortals against one another, and it is this which Guthix is lamenting about in his memory. For this is a waste of life, mindlessly following the beliefs of someone else instead of following your own.

So taking all this into account, for me it is just interesting lore that yields a new view of past events, while also providing us with some interesting reveals in the last memory.
"One should not mindlessly follow gods or the godless:
follow
your
own
path
"
~Big Storms

12-Jun-2018 11:03:00

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