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Dilbert2001
Jun Gold Premier Club Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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"As we have said recently, Treasure Hunter, and MTX is essential to maintaining our development teams and the content they produce...

We’re working to improve how Treasure Hunter (and any other micro-transactions) work, in line with feedback from our community...

I understand that you might not agree with this, and thanks for asking pertinent questions. I hope you can see where we’re coming from with the above responses." - Jmod Kelvin's response from the New Charity Initiative thread.

Sorry if you don't agree with Jmods but nothing you can do with MTX and actually you can do more with MTX now since you can not only pay for MTX, you can choose to donate more. :)

17-Dec-2017 17:56:37 - Last edited on 17-Dec-2017 18:17:09 by Dilbert2001

KathrynMiles
Apr Gold Premier Club Member 2016

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This discussion is very interesting. Treasure Hunter is claimed to benefit Jagex by providing more funds for their work. However, some may argue that due to us not knowing the precise amount of money that they need or the money that they gain, it is possible that it is merely being used for cheap profits while being hidden behind claims of necessity.

As for gameplay, some, such as the previous poster, enjoy the daily Treasure Hunter keys. Others, however, find its pay-to-win aspect harmful to the quality of gameplay because players can simply buy their way to success, if you will, and because it draws focus away from actual game development.

Although removing Treasure Hunter would ideally direct focus to true updates, I do not yet have enough information to determine whether it is truly vital for paying Jagex's costs. However, the presence and usage of RuneCoins and Bonds indicate that these features are actually very reliable for funding.

I believe that in order to encourage a modification such as this, the players themselves should take action. I remember a saying during my investigation of another subject - Botwatch - which was "We pay, we say". Another saying that I heard of in another anonymous game is "Vote with your wallet". These sayings appear to apply to this case as well because what we pay for in the game intuitively influences what the staff team focuses on. In other words, if we were to refrain from purchasing Treasure Hunter keys, this boycotting would discourage extreme focus on promotions. I imagined a potential saying to spread the word: "Don't support reckless greed. Don't buy Treasure Hunter keys.".

Meanwhile, I do believe that Jagex should consider reducing the number of promotions. They should be monthly as opposed to weekly; this will allow more time for them to focus on other projects, which will increase the quality of the game and, therefore, attract more players and funding due to sources other than Treasure Hunter.
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28-Dec-2017 18:29:06

Acra
Aug Gold Premier Club Member 2013

Acra

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I'm neutral, I've been a major participant of TH over the years and I'd love to see it gone. However, I don't see it leaving as it generates a lot more revenue than monthly membership cost.

Edit: If they did remove it they'd have to substitute something else and that could be worse.
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13-Jan-2018 12:00:48 - Last edited on 13-Jan-2018 12:02:40 by Acra

Blackwing
Nov Member 2012

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Acra said:
Support, I've been a major participant of TH over the years and I'd love to see it gone. However, I don't see it leaving as it generates a lot more revenue than monthly membership cost.

Edit: If they did remove it they'd have to substitute something else and that could be worse.

That's false, actually; Jagex's financial statements prove that membership revenue is much greater (almost 20 million £) than microtransaction revenue, as you can see here:



You can find the statements on the Companies House website, and even though we don't yet have the statement for 2017, you have to remember that the MTX situation was already outright terrible in 2016 and even in 2015, so you can't really argue either that "well maybe they've had a tougher time in 2017", because they already pushed out MTX very aggressively in those previous years. And don't forget that MTX revenue includes TH, Solomon's store and bonds, meaning that out of the MTX revenue you see listed there, only a part of it comes from TH.

So really, they wouldn't have to substitute TH for anything else; they could just go back to Solomon's store additions, which are fine since they're mostly cosmetic AND guaranteed, so they don't prey on gambling addictions.
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13-Jan-2018 12:15:54

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