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Runelower
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What is the reason RS3 active population has declined from 39k to 24k active players in the last 3 years?

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18-Apr-2018 17:06:11

Dilbert2001
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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
RS3 players who get 9000 bil gp from TH can convert it to OSRS gp and be way way way way way ahead of OSRS players. It is an undeniable fact. :D:D:D
That is correct, but the RS3 economy is the one that will suffer inflation as a consequence. No OSRS gold is created as a consequence of RS3's MTX activities.


Who care about the economy or inflation if they are going to get a lot of gp from TH? They are not going to grind their gp. Economy doesn't bother them. They just get gp from TH and use them in both RS3 and OSRS to be better than the others. They pay to win in RS3 and also in OSRS. Good for them if that's what they care. :D:D:D


I'm glad you recognize that aggressive MTX practices and short-sighted whales are damaging to the game and the economy. Good for you if that makes you happy.


What? I never said anything "aggressive" or "damaging". I just don't care and it is good for the whales to get what they want, pay to win in both RS3 and OSRS at the same time. :D:D:D

Good for OSRS players if whales from RS3 can pay their way to win in OSRS and that makes them happy. :D:D:D

18-Apr-2018 18:38:52

Konota
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Runelower said:

What is the reason RS3 active population has declined from 39k to 24k active players in the last 3 years?

Let's see.
- New top free games that are released on the market (Fortnite for example, roflstomping most games atm)
- 07 Scape taking away some players (hence the reason why I do not support more versions of Runescape, 2011 for example)
- Shitty updates in batches, broken promises, ...
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I mean, everyone seems to blame MTX for lack of players, but based on what?
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20-Apr-2018 09:22:24 - Last edited on 20-Apr-2018 09:23:16 by Konota

Dilbert2001
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Konota said:
Runelower said:

What is the reason RS3 active population has declined from 39k to 24k active players in the last 3 years?

Let's see.
- New top free games that are released on the market (Fortnite for example, roflstomping most games atm)
- 07 Scape taking away some players (hence the reason why I do not support more versions of Runescape, 2011 for example)
- Shitty updates in batches, broken promises, ...
-


I mean, everyone seems to blame MTX for lack of players, but based on what?


Actually active RS3 members have risen to 723.3k. Remember, OSRS and RS3 members are subscribed under the same plan and able to play both games. Besides, OSRS are also affected by the MTX from RS3 because gp can be exchanged between both games.

The current top 10 PC video games according to SuperData Research are:

1. League of Legends
2. Dunegon Fighter Online
3. Fantasy Westeard Journey Online II
4. Crossfire
5. PlayerUnknwon's Battlegrounds
6. Fortnite: Battle Royale
7. World of Warcraft
8. World of Tanks
9. Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft
10. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

All of them have a lot more MTX than Runescape and most of them are fully supported by MTX without subscription.

In fact, all except WoW are free to play and not MMO. Pay to play MMO are dying, not Runescape, not MTX. That's the real fact. :D:D:D

21-Apr-2018 18:17:17

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said:
Konota said:
Runelower said:

What is the reason RS3 active population has declined from 39k to 24k active players in the last 3 years?

Let's see.
- New top free games that are released on the market (Fortnite for example, roflstomping most games atm)
- 07 Scape taking away some players (hence the reason why I do not support more versions of Runescape, 2011 for example)
- Shitty updates in batches, broken promises, ...
-


I mean, everyone seems to blame MTX for lack of players, but based on what?


Actually active RS3 members have risen to 723.3k. Remember, OSRS and RS3 members are subscribed under the same plan and able to play both games. Besides, OSRS are also affected by the MTX from RS3 because gp can be exchanged between both games.

The current top 10 PC video games according to SuperData Research are:

1. League of Legends
2. Dunegon Fighter Online
3. Fantasy Westeard Journey Online II
4. Crossfire
5. PlayerUnknwon's Battlegrounds
6. Fortnite: Battle Royale
7. World of Warcraft
8. World of Tanks
9. Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft
10. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

All of them have a lot more MTX than Runescape and most of them are fully supported by MTX without subscription.

In fact, all except WoW are free to play and not MMO. Pay to play MMO are dying, not Runescape, not MTX. That's the real fact. :D:D:D


PUBG isn't free2play lmao

According to this sort of data runescape would be making more money if they went f2p and upped the MTX even more... but instead they raised the subscription price. A greedy act of desperation? Or will we be seeing a reduction in MTX in the future?
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22-Apr-2018 22:26:53

boidaez

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Konota said:
Runelower said:

What is the reason RS3 active population has declined from 39k to 24k active players in the last 3 years?

Let's see.
- New top free games that are released on the market (Fortnite for example, roflstomping most games atm)
- 07 Scape taking away some players (hence the reason why I do not support more versions of Runescape, 2011 for example)
- Shitty updates in batches, broken promises, ...
-


I mean, everyone seems to blame MTX for lack of players, but based on what?


only people with trimmed comp and max skill exp would want new ingamecontent, as im neither i would prefer no more ingame updates.. tweaks and fixes is all that they need to do realistically

22-Apr-2018 23:33:40 - Last edited on 22-Apr-2018 23:34:57 by boidaez

Dilbert2001
Jun Gold Premier Club Member 2006

Dilbert2001

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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Konota said:
Runelower said:

What is the reason RS3 active population has declined from 39k to 24k active players in the last 3 years?

Let's see.
- New top free games that are released on the market (Fortnite for example, roflstomping most games atm)
- 07 Scape taking away some players (hence the reason why I do not support more versions of Runescape, 2011 for example)
- Shitty updates in batches, broken promises, ...
-



Actually active RS3 members have risen to 723.3k. Remember, OSRS and RS3 members are subscribed under the same plan and able to play both games. Besides, OSRS are also affected by the MTX from RS3 because gp can be exchanged between both games.

The current top 10 PC video games according to SuperData Research are:

1. League of Legends
2. Dunegon Fighter Online
3. Fantasy Westeard Journey Online II
4. Crossfire
5. PlayerUnknwon's Battlegrounds
6. Fortnite: Battle Royale
7. World of Warcraft
8. World of Tanks
9. Hearthstone: Heroes of Warcraft
10. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive

All of them have a lot more MTX than Runescape and most of them are fully supported by MTX without subscription.

In fact, all except WoW are free to play and not MMO. Pay to play MMO are dying, not Runescape, not MTX. That's the real fact. :D:D:D


PUBG isn't free2play lmao

According to this sort of data runescape would be making more money if they went f2p and upped the MTX even more... but instead they raised the subscription price. A greedy act of desperation? Or will we be seeing a reduction in MTX in the future?


PUBG isn't f2p but it is also not an MMO. LMAO :D:D:D

RS may make more if they go fully f2p, particularly in Asia years later when MMO and subscription deteriorate more, but 723k members are good enough now. :D:D:D

23-Apr-2018 00:26:23

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
PUBG isn't f2p but it is also not an MMO. LMAO :D:D:D

RS may make more if they go fully f2p, particularly in Asia years later when MMO and subscription deteriorate more, but 723k members are good enough now. :D:D:D


It may not be an MMO but the average round still has more players than some rs3 worlds, lmao....


So? The largest runescape worlds can't hold more than 2000 players. War of Tanks set the Guiness World Record of >500k players online in the same world simultaneoulsy.

Different games can monetize in different ways can still be successful.

WoW has recurring subscription in the West but none of their "subscription" in China is recurring - each "subscription" there is just a one time payment for game time.

That said, Runescape can do the same thing as in WoW in China too, while maintaining the current model in the West and make more money in both parts of the world. :D:D:D

Anyway, MTX in WoW is pretty much the same in both the West and East even if "subscriptions" mean different things there. Same thing with TH in Runescape going forward in different parts of the world. :D:D:D

23-Apr-2018 02:05:50

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