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Blackwing
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0815 said:
As for the topic: As long as there are customers who are buying there will be Treasure Hunter content. Those in favour of TH, continue buying, those against, stop buying. At the end of the year the numbers matter.

If only Jagex figured it out that long term, they'd make more money from subscriptions and cosmetic MTX if they scrapped the P2W MTX. Hell, even keeping bonds would be fine, as they actually do a lot of good, while TH does nada in that regard. > )
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03-May-2018 18:02:51

Dilbert2001
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Blackwing said:
0815 said:
As for the topic: As long as there are customers who are buying there will be Treasure Hunter content. Those in favour of TH, continue buying, those against, stop buying. At the end of the year the numbers matter.

If only Jagex figured it out that long term, they'd make more money from subscriptions and cosmetic MTX if they scrapped the P2W MTX. Hell, even keeping bonds would be fine, as they actually do a lot of good, while TH does nada in that regard. > )


I bet they know what they are doing, and doing right. That's why Jagex is making 28 mil 43 million British Pounds net profits in 2017. :D:D:D

03-May-2018 18:07:48 - Last edited on 03-May-2018 18:08:16 by Dilbert2001

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Dilbert2001 said:
Blackwing said:
0815 said:
As for the topic: As long as there are customers who are buying there will be Treasure Hunter content. Those in favour of TH, continue buying, those against, stop buying. At the end of the year the numbers matter.

If only Jagex figured it out that long term, they'd make more money from subscriptions and cosmetic MTX if they scrapped the P2W MTX. Hell, even keeping bonds would be fine, as they actually do a lot of good, while TH does nada in that regard. > )


I bet they know what they are doing, and doing right. That's why Jagex is making 28 mil 43 million British Pounds net profits in 2017. :D:D:D


That's probably because they didn't spend all their money on another failed MMO/card game attempt in 2017. All those Transformer Universes and mechscapes and Chronicles really take a big cut of the profit.
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03-May-2018 18:16:19

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Blackwing said:
0815 said:
As for the topic: As long as there are customers who are buying there will be Treasure Hunter content. Those in favour of TH, continue buying, those against, stop buying. At the end of the year the numbers matter.

If only Jagex figured it out that long term, they'd make more money from subscriptions and cosmetic MTX if they scrapped the P2W MTX. Hell, even keeping bonds would be fine, as they actually do a lot of good, while TH does nada in that regard. > )


The thing is that some people (18++) love to gamble with Treasure Hunter and / or love to buy a lot of cosmetic overrides.
I admit that when SGS came out, I did buy the Guthix teleport for 12 € or so. 12 Euros for a silly animation. But I did enjoy it for some years, until SGS became more mainstream and Jagex released the monthly free item.

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03-May-2018 18:20:40

Dilbert2001
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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Blackwing said:
0815 said:
As for the topic: As long as there are customers who are buying there will be Treasure Hunter content. Those in favour of TH, continue buying, those against, stop buying. At the end of the year the numbers matter.

If only Jagex figured it out that long term, they'd make more money from subscriptions and cosmetic MTX if they scrapped the P2W MTX. Hell, even keeping bonds would be fine, as they actually do a lot of good, while TH does nada in that regard. > )


I bet they know what they are doing, and doing right. That's why Jagex is making 28 mil 43 million British Pounds net profits in 2017. :D:D:D


That's probably because they didn't spend all their money on another failed MMO/card game attempt in 2017. All those Transformer Universes and mechscapes and Chronicles really take a big cut of the profit.


TU and Mechscape haven't been a financial factor for Jagex since their 2015 report at all. Nobody know about Chronicles since Jagex never announced information on individual titles. "Really take a big cut of the profit"??? :D:D:D

Only Jagex know but we are not going to find out anyway. All it matters to us players is if Jagex continues to make 43 mil pounds and more and more and more every year, their monetization will go the same way. To us players, more importantly, we'll still have Jagex games to play.

So, go TH if they make Jagex stronger and stronger. Meanwhile, I control my own wallet. If I don't want to pay I won't. No need to hate TH since it doesn't bother me. :D:D:D

03-May-2018 18:45:19 - Last edited on 03-May-2018 18:46:02 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001
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0815 said:
Blackwing said:
0815 said:
As for the topic: As long as there are customers who are buying there will be Treasure Hunter content. Those in favour of TH, continue buying, those against, stop buying. At the end of the year the numbers matter.

If only Jagex figured it out that long term, they'd make more money from subscriptions and cosmetic MTX if they scrapped the P2W MTX. Hell, even keeping bonds would be fine, as they actually do a lot of good, while TH does nada in that regard. > )


The thing is that some people (18++) love to gamble with Treasure Hunter and / or love to buy a lot of cosmetic overrides.
I admit that when SGS came out, I did buy the Guthix teleport for 12 € or so. 12 Euros for a silly animation. But I did enjoy it for some years, until SGS became more mainstream and Jagex released the monthly free item.

#fashionscape


The actual fact why TH and other MTX are so wildly popular is because parents don't consider them bad influence to their children at all. You can see that from all kinds of loot boxes and MTX in Angry Bird, a game designed for small kids. You can also see parents don't have any problem spending money on gumball machines, which also clearly target little kids.

These anti-"gambling" and MTX hatred mostly only happen in some forums, but not the real world. As a matter of fact, even in the extreme heat of loot boxes hatred back in November 2017, an ABC survey showed only 6% of the 1000 people they polled said they would never buy loot boxes. :D:D:D

This article is a very good read about the psychologies of the parents - they don't really hate loot boxes and MTX:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-28/pay-to-win-gaming-features-look-like-gambling/9201386

03-May-2018 19:03:06 - Last edited on 03-May-2018 19:12:21 by Dilbert2001

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Dilbert2001 said:
TU and Mechscape haven't been a financial factor for Jagex since their 2015 report at all. Nobody know about Chronicles since Jagex never announced information on individual titles. "Really take a big cut of the profit"?


Yes, part of the reasons profits have been so high lately is Jagex isn't wasting their money on some other game that never turns out. Seems like we'll be getting another one, soon though.
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04-May-2018 03:29:25

Dilbert2001
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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
TU and Mechscape haven't been a financial factor for Jagex since their 2015 report at all. Nobody know about Chronicles since Jagex never announced information on individual titles. "Really take a big cut of the profit"?


Yes, part of the reasons profits have been so high lately is Jagex isn't wasting their money on some other game that never turns out. Seems like we'll be getting another one, soon though.


There is no indication, and probably never be any from any official Jagex announcement how much money they are making/losing in Chronicles. I don't think they are making money in that title neither but game developers have to keep rolling out new initiatives to keep their piggy banks full.

RS Mobile is around the corner. I don't think it will flop although I don't think the full version will be a big hit in its first year, particularly in the West but new ideas and new games are what keep game developers who rely on selling creativity like Jagex growing. The outlook of Mobile and the other new next gen titles is bright.

Anyway, if some people really think new games are bad for Jagex, does it only mean TH and MTX that take very little extra time and money to make in the old games are even more important to the company's financial books? :D:D:D

04-May-2018 16:02:23 - Last edited on 04-May-2018 16:04:08 by Dilbert2001

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