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Miu

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Dilbert2001 said:
Runelower said:
Loot Boxes are absolute shit in terms of PR right now, yet so many people defend this shit here on RSOF, how so?


Good question which is actually answered repeatedly by the players themselves who hate TH but instead of quitting, they bought Primier Club memberships year after year.

With or without TH, players will still pay. Only idiots will remove TH to make themselves less money. :D:D

If TH is really "bad" for PR, why do these people who think it is "bad" PR still pay for Primier priviledge in a "bad" PR game? Does it make them part of the "bad" PR? :D:D

Actually a lot of players have boycotted premier club this year and have not renewed their membership when their last premier club expired.

Secondly, the gold injected into the game through TH actually causes inflation. Treasure Hunter actually makes everyone earn LESS money, as gold has less value.
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04-Feb-2018 00:03:47

Dilbert2001
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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Runelower said:
Loot Boxes are absolute shit in terms of PR right now, yet so many people defend this shit here on RSOF, how so?


Good question which is actually answered repeatedly by the players themselves who hate TH but instead of quitting, they bought Primier Club memberships year after year.

With or without TH, players will still pay. Only idiots will remove TH to make themselves less money. :D:D

If TH is really "bad" for PR, why do these people who think it is "bad" PR still pay for Primier priviledge in a "bad" PR game? Does it make them part of the "bad" PR? :D:D

Actually a lot of players have boycotted premier club this year and have not renewed their membership when their last premier club expired.

Secondly, the gold injected into the game through TH actually causes inflation. Treasure Hunter actually makes everyone earn LESS money, as gold has less value.


I read these "boycott" things in all kinds of game forums but when their financial reports came year after year, there have never been any sight of boycott or girlcott. :P

I meant Jagex would be idiots to remove TH to make them less money, not the virtual "money" that has no real world value and the players can't even own IRL.

04-Feb-2018 04:22:56

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said:
I read these "boycott" things in all kinds of game forums but when their financial reports came year after year, there have never been any sight of boycott or girlcott. :P

I meant Jagex would be idiots to remove TH to make them less money, not the virtual "money" that has no real world value and the players can't even own IRL.


Well this is runescape we're talking about, not other games. Either way, we won't see the fruits of the supposed boycotts this year until the fiscal year is over and it's 2019. No point making blind speculation and unsupported claims.
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04-Feb-2018 04:32:04

Dilbert2001
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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
I read these "boycott" things in all kinds of game forums but when their financial reports came year after year, there have never been any sight of boycott or girlcott. :P

I meant Jagex would be idiots to remove TH to make them less money, not the virtual "money" that has no real world value and the players can't even own IRL.


Well this is runescape we're talking about, not other games. Either way, we won't see the fruits of the supposed boycotts this year until the fiscal year is over and it's 2019. No point making blind speculation and unsupported claims.


Aha! So you realize it is useless to make "blind speculation and unsupported claims", right?

Jagex is the ones that knows. They are the ones pocketing the money. They run TH. Players play games and pay for TH if they want to., or not if they don't want to. Really simple. :D

04-Feb-2018 04:48:50

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said:
Aha! So you realize it is useless to make "blind speculation and unsupported claims", right?

Jagex is the ones that knows. They are the ones pocketing the money. They run TH. Players play games and pay for TH if they want to., or not if they don't want to. Really simple. :D


Right. And players leave games that have rampant MTX and lootbox systems. TH dissuades people from joining the game.

Miu said:
https://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/features/theres-no-such-thing-as-a-good-loot-box-or-microtransaction-w508742

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2017/09/loot-boxes-have-reached-a-new-low-with-forza-7s-pay-to-earn-option/

https://www.extremetech.com/gaming/257387-gamers-hate-buying-loot-boxes-games-using


You also have to realize that membership profits exceed TH profits.



TH profits are only a fraction of MTX profits. Jagex could shift content from TH onto Solomon's as well as into the game as non MTX content.

In doing so, Jagex would:
- remove the unpopular lootbox system
- still be making MTX money from bonds and Solomon's,
- be making the game more attractive to new players by removing the unpopular Treasure Hunter that serves as a detriment to player retention as well as new player acquisition.

Like you said, players play games because they want to, and public sentiment is at an all time low for lootboxes.



Fun fact: The week of Nov 12, 2017, was the lowest average population week of RS3 in history. The Friday of the very same week, was the release of Battlefront 2, the game that sparked lootbox controversy worldwide and has spurred on lawmakers to try to take on these lootboxes.

MTX content like that has a measurable effect on the playerbase, as data has proven. Jagex can decide to either care for their playerbase, or care for a couple whales while the rest of the game stagnates.
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04-Feb-2018 05:27:11

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04-Feb-2018 15:57:39

Runelower
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And management knows, that sometimes you have to take a hit to survive, at this rate rs3 is going to be dead in 1 or 2 years. The most hated man in all of JaGeX. Greed is NOT Good!

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