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Draco Burnz
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Doorknob747 said:
reddit is a blog site. Bring something like a Wall street journal or New york times economy section. Then that is proof.

Anyone can post BS on Reddit.


See this is why ppl dont post "proof", someone will always say its "wrong" no matter where it from:@
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SumOFab Itch

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U guys don't even understand. Membership promo s mxt too.

Consider ur bond...

U get 14 days members, 14 keys if u want them and members loyalty etc. And more.

Or, u use bond for 15 keys.

Ur members is a rip. U should pay more for members. $70/month. I mean, u pay $70/month for ur net? To play rs*...
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21-Mar-2018 15:07:13

SumOFab Itch

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Too many rs servers.

97/2000 potential players on at a time.

Wilderness expansion actually made the wilderness smaller for pkers. Pkers are further apart than ever in the wilderness.

Close 75% of servers. Increase player density by 300%. 350/2000 players/world. Then reduce worlds by 50%. 700/2000 players.

There are too many worlds. That's the problem.

Make u suffer to find a place to train. Learn what rs is about.

88% less world = 88% less potential harvest loots = save weird ass economy.

But th is way too good. It has to stay.

If ur argument is th is op and destroys the game, u're a nut. Its way under powered. Members gets members and 14 keys. U PAY FOR MEMBERS! U hate on me, but how many times u paid for members? I've never paid for members (on this account ;))
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21-Mar-2018 16:12:51 - Last edited on 21-Mar-2018 16:34:07 by SumOFab Itch

Dilbert2001
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Doorknob747 said:
Dilbert2001 said:
I have mentioned and provided links in many threads about the Jagex official financial reports. If you haven't read it, here it is, with English translation and comments from some reddit users:

https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/77uptr/according_to_shanghai_fukongs_financial/

And this is a report from financial analysts on Jagex's 2017-2019 fiscal years:

http://vip.stock.finance.sina.com.cn/q/go.php/vReport_Show/kind/search/rptid/3894458/index.phtml

Note that Jagex's net income in the coming year is expected to jump more than 8% from 297 mil RMB to 323 RMB, or USD 51.68 mil.

Now, can you please show us the REAL WORLD facts about declining members and losing profits? :D:D:D


reddit is a blog site. Bring something like a Wall street journal or New york times economy section. Then that is proof.

Anyone can post BS on Reddit.


I suggest you go for an eye examination before you make your next post. The link to the official publicly released financial report from Fukong Interactive was on the very first line of that reddit post - all 143 pages of it!

In case if you still don't see it, here it is again:

https://doc.morningstar.com/Document/0a6823db914df5f615896abbddd2ef01.msdoc/original?clientid=globaldocuments&key=52dbc583e1012395

21-Mar-2018 17:14:28

Dilbert2001
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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
I have mentioned and provided links in many threads about the Jagex official financial reports. If you haven't read it, here it is, with English translation and comments from some reddit users:

https://www.reddit.com/r/runescape/comments/77uptr/according_to_shanghai_fukongs_financial/

And this is a report from financial analysts on Jagex's 2017-2019 fiscal years:

http://vip.stock.finance.sina.com.cn/q/go.php/vReport_Show/kind/search/rptid/3894458/index.phtml

Note that Jagex's net income in the coming year is expected to jump more than 8% from 297 mil RMB to 323 RMB, or USD 51.68 mil.

Now, can you please show us the REAL WORLD facts about declining members and losing profits? :D:D:D


Doesn't separate membership from MTX revenue so no clue what you're trying to say with this.

Secondly predictions aren't proof or evidence. Anyone can make predictions.

Thirdly I said dwindling playerbase of RS3, not dwindling membership. We all know membership is going up thanks to OSRS.

You do realize the whole POINT of proof is to back up what you say? Linking something unrelated and trying to use it as proof for statements that don't correlate makes no sense.


When said it 9000 times from the perspective of a business, RS NEXTGEN, RS3, OSRS, MTX, TH, Premier Club or whatever don't make any different to Jagex and its investors and the business/financial sectors covering them.

The bottom line remains they are very profitable and going to be even more profitable with their TH initiatives. Nobody cares about the $5 subscription somebody in the forums and Jagex won't even care to use that $5 bill to wipe their nose. It is hilarious somebody think Jagex will throw away $50 million a year just for $5. :D:D:D

You are also wrong in every respect regarding OSRS and MTX but I'll leave the other forumers to enlighten you because obviously OSRS has no TH to talk about.

21-Mar-2018 17:23:12

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Dilbert2001 said:
When said it 9000 times from the perspective of a business, RS NEXTGEN, RS3, OSRS, MTX, TH, Premier Club or whatever don't make any different to Jagex and its investors and the business/financial sectors covering them.

The bottom line remains they are very profitable and going to be even more profitable with their TH initiatives. Nobody cares about the $5 subscription somebody in the forums and Jagex won't even care to use that $5 bill to wipe their nose. It is hilarious somebody think Jagex will throw away $50 million a year just for $5. :D:D:D

You are also wrong in every respect regarding OSRS and MTX but I'll leave the other forumers to enlighten you because


Membership isn't even 5 dollars for new subscribers (you know, the ones TH scares away). And OSRS does have MTX in the form of bonds. You seem to be under the belief that TH is the only form of MTX that causes cash to flow into Jagex's pockets. If that's the case you're sadly mistaken.
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21-Mar-2018 22:22:30

Draco Burnz
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Miu said:
Membership isn't even 5 dollars for new subscribers (you know, the ones TH scares away)


Last i checked membership is now 10 USD.

So this is false.

Miu said:
). And OSRS does have MTX in the form of bonds. You seem to be under the belief that TH is the only form of MTX that causes cash to flow into Jagex's pockets.


Ofc some might consider bonds MTX, but most of the OSRS ppl youd ask would say otherwise.
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21-Mar-2018 22:34:57

Miu

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Draco Burnz said:
Miu said:
Membership isn't even 5 dollars for new subscribers (you know, the ones TH scares away)


Last i checked membership is now 10 USD.

So this is false.
I just said membership isn't 5 dollars. ??? Yeah it's like 8-10 USD. Did you misread?

Draco Burnz said:
Miu said:
). And OSRS does have MTX in the form of bonds. You seem to be under the belief that TH is the only form of MTX that causes cash to flow into Jagex's pockets.


Ofc some might consider bonds MTX, but most of the OSRS ppl youd ask would say otherwise.
It's not about what people "OSRS ppl id ask" consider MTX. It's considered MTX in Jagex's revenue, which is where it matters.
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21-Mar-2018 22:37:51

Dilbert2001
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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
When said it 9000 times from the perspective of a business, RS NEXTGEN, RS3, OSRS, MTX, TH, Premier Club or whatever don't make any different to Jagex and its investors and the business/financial sectors covering them.

The bottom line remains they are very profitable and going to be even more profitable with their TH initiatives. Nobody cares about the $5 subscription somebody in the forums and Jagex won't even care to use that $5 bill to wipe their nose. It is hilarious somebody think Jagex will throw away $50 million a year just for $5. :D:D:D

You are also wrong in every respect regarding OSRS and MTX but I'll leave the other forumers to enlighten you because


Membership isn't even 5 dollars for new subscribers (you know, the ones TH scares away). And OSRS does have MTX in the form of bonds. You seem to be under the belief that TH is the only form of MTX that causes cash to flow into Jagex's pockets. If that's the case you're sadly mistaken.


You are sadly mistaken rather. I don't have to say it the 9001 times that OSRS or even Classic or Whatever don't matter in Jagex's BIG PICTURE. They are projected to make 50+ mil profits in a couple of years with not just the current RS titles but more under their current monetization model. They don't care about the $5 or $10 a month from the 30 players in the forums, especially when they can see with their eyes closed that their business has been going up and they have been setting world records and winning prestigious rewards in the game industry in the faces of the hot air blowers who have said "Runescape is dying. MTX is dying since 2012". :D:D:D

21-Mar-2018 22:45:18 - Last edited on 21-Mar-2018 22:45:50 by Dilbert2001

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