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Miu

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Blackwing said:
Miu said:
Fortunately, Jagex has finally provided us with some evidence :D And we can finally put to rest some faulty assumptions some have used to argue that RS3 somehow has a higher playerbase than OSRS.

http://file.finance.sina.com.cn/211.154.219.97:9494/MRGG/CNSESH_STOCK/2018/2018-6/2018-06-02/4491886.PDF

According to this, both runescapes have a total of ~765,400 members.

According to the Runefest OSRS presentation, OSRS has 550,000 members.


OSRS accounts for 70% of the total membership.
RS3 accounts for 30%.

94k concurrent players total as of right now.
68k on OSRS. 26k RS3.

72% of the concurrent playercount is OSRS.
28% of the concurrent playercount is RS3.

Is this consistent with our findings using the active playercount? Absolutely, a margin of difference of only 2%, which could be attributed to bots if you wish.

So
70% of the playerbase is OSRS in both concurrent playerbase and in total subscribers.
But only 30% RS3?
Why?

Probably TH. You can debate that. But you can no longer believe or debate that RS3 somehow is more popular through pitiful mental gymnastics, lest you ignore mod rowley and the rest of Jagex :D

Idk how you found that PDF, but yeah, it does paint the picture that OSRS isn't just doing better for the online player counter, but for the member count as well. Doesn't surprise me at all tbh: P2W games might do well short term, but in the long term, game integrity is what makes a successful game, for which the RS3/OSRS comparison is a testament. > )

Cheers!

The PDF is courtesy of dilbert :)
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19-Oct-2018 18:00:38

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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So reverting back to spamming the same 550k "OSRS" members and try to pretend all of them don't play RS3?

Too bad,
real life live official Runecape Hiscores
show otherwise.

Want to see
more real life live official Runecape Hiscores
?

What about Clue Scrolls? For instance, elite clues?

220,480 RS3 players
198,915 OSRS players


https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore_oldschool/c=JHkm5A2pFgs/overall.ws?category_type=1

https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore/c=myAAXdAQ9sk/ranking?category_type=1&table=30&time_filter=0&date=1539969187529&page=8820

Where did all those OSRS "players" go? Strawman eat them? :D:D:D

19-Oct-2018 18:16:02

Miu

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said:
So reverting back to spamming the same 550k "OSRS" members and try to pretend all of them don't play RS3?

Too bad,
real life live official Runecape Hiscores
show otherwise.

Want to see
more real life live official Runecape Hiscores
?

What about Clue Scrolls? For instance, elite clues?

220,480 RS3 players
198,915 OSRS players


https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore_oldschool/c=JHkm5A2pFgs/overall.ws?category_type=1

https://secure.runescape.com/m=hiscore/c=myAAXdAQ9sk/ranking?category_type=1&table=30&time_filter=0&date=1539969187529&page=8820

Where did all those OSRS "players" go? Strawman eat them? :D:D:D


Hilarious cherrypicked hiscores. If you go to easy clue scrolls, you get well over 250k OSRS players, vs 180k RS3 players.

It's even more hilarious when you realize that the
RS3 clue scroll hiscores also include nonmembers
....

So the numbers you're comparing to, really have zero relevance at all to subscriber count, membership count, or concurrent players. Those numbers, which are factual, show a clear trend. You can fiddle with the hiscores all you want until it spits out the numbers you want, but that won't make RS3 any more popular. Now get back on topic, please.
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19-Oct-2018 18:27:10 - Last edited on 19-Oct-2018 18:27:54 by Miu

Dilbert2001
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ELITEáSTACK said:
Rs3 hiscores have 420k+ in the runescore hiscores needing at least 500 runescore but Hiscores don't mean anything.


Neither does 550k "OSRS" members mean anything to RS3 members since any or all of those 550k "OSRS" members can be active players in RS3 too.

19-Oct-2018 18:27:53

Miu

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said:
ELITEáSTACK said:
Rs3 hiscores have 420k+ in the runescore hiscores needing at least 500 runescore but Hiscores don't mean anything.


Neither does 550k "OSRS" members mean anything to RS3 members since any or all of those 550k "OSRS" members can be active players in RS3 too.


but they're not active. At least, not playing now :)

Sure, they can be "subscribed" to both games. But there's obvious a clear favorite based on how many more are playing OSRS.
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19-Oct-2018 18:28:18 - Last edited on 19-Oct-2018 18:28:57 by Miu

Dilbert2001
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Dilbert2001

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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
ELITEáSTACK said:
Rs3 hiscores have 420k+ in the runescore hiscores needing at least 500 runescore but Hiscores don't mean anything.


Neither does 550k "OSRS" members mean anything to RS3 members since any or all of those 550k "OSRS" members can be active players in RS3 too.


but they're not active. At least, not playing now :)


Show proof the RS3 members are not active but the OSRS "members" are always "active" please. At least, we all know we don' thave 550k "OSRS" "members" playing now. :D:D:D

19-Oct-2018 18:30:31

Miu

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said:
Show proof the RS3 members are not active but the OSRS "members" are always "active" please. At least, we all know we don' thave 550k "OSRS" "members" playing now.

Review this post. Or visit oldschool.runescape.com and subtract the OSRS number from the number at the top of this page to get the concurrent RS3 players.

Miu said:
That's what the concurrent player count is for. 70% of the online users are OSRS.
70% of total membership is OSRS.

137k /r/runescape subscribers
2,300 online.

255k /r/2007scape subscribers
8,600 online.

OSRS is larger by every conceivable metric, as has been proven by Jagex's own statistics, community population tracking, financial reports, reddit population and subscriber count, and even the homepage. Apologies that this seems to invalidate your fanfiction and strawman arguments.

Now, are you going to continue making faulty assumptions so you can try to pretend RS3 is more popular? Or are you going to address the issues that are causing RS3 to hemorrhage its playerbase?

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19-Oct-2018 18:35:55 - Last edited on 19-Oct-2018 18:36:38 by Miu

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