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King Tumeken
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Also, when it comes to like Classic, Old School, whatever - my opinion has always been the following since MY origins in Runescape are also from 1998:

OSRS is an out of date video game. So, OSRS being defended is like a misguided opinion by just *another* player who was incapable of adapting to a modernized game and enjoying it. Runecape 3 is the only game ever, to last this long, adapt to modernize itself BUT still have it's most popular version be it's original? I'm just saying, why are more people Playing Pac-man, and not Red Dead Redemption 2?

There is literally only two reasons why it has more players - Mobile + Unadaptable Players

None of those reasons though, are any reasons players on PS4/ Xbox / ANY modern game would have. OSRS players are Classic Players. Players from when this game first begun, first ever started in it's cheesy, poor graphic state. Those people don't like change. How did EOC ruin anything? I'm guessing games like Skyrim, COD, and other similar ones are also too difficult for them, too. SO they dislike them and stick to Pacman and N64.

You know how your grandpa doesn't understand how to work a computer but he knows how to use a typewriter? Well boom, there ya go.

If RUNESCAPE 3, the version which has better immersive gameplay, graphics, quests, content, ... the game that was updated FOR THE SAKE of being better because we moved into the 20th century has less players, what? How does that happen. How does this version become less popular? ZERO LOGIC.


I just told you how it did. So really, now you can see how it does makes sense why an older, crappier version of this game is more popular.

Runescape needs an entirely new REMASTERING so it could be COMPARABLE to a modern game like we have today. Otherwise, what? This dies, and OS stays around on mobile?

I just don't get why they didn't make this game more modernized. 1999 - 2018.

You're gonna keep 1999 around forever but have no interest in 2020? Meh, whatever .
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18-Dec-2018 18:59:36 - Last edited on 18-Dec-2018 19:08:42 by King Tumeken

Dilbert2001
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King Tumeken said:
Don't remove it.

I think TH will fade, though. The gamble isn't even worth it. Runescape is doing really well with profits right now though. Not surprised. I think it's mostly because of bonds and runecoins , not TH because I refuse to believe people are that desperately. . ... in need, that they go ham on TH with their money in comparison to, how they would with bonds and rune coins.


No. Among the 3 Jagex MTX tools, TH gives them the most money. Runecoins is not doing too well, TH brings in over 9 times the money from Runecoins. Bond is in the middle. That's from the official Fukong Interactive Jagex Financial Report.

Besides, the popularity of TH comes not just from the randomness or loot boxe kind of game of chance or the gp and/or cosmetic prizes, but the xp that is very important to many people, particularly the new and causal ones who don't have 2+ years to waste just to get into enjoyable game content.

Of course, Jagex like profits so TH must stay. To many players, they can't play without the xp items from TH neither.

18-Dec-2018 21:51:06

Miu

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King Tumeken said:
I think TH will fade, though. The gamble isn't even worth it. Runescape is doing really well with profits right now though. Not surprised. I think it's mostly because of bonds and runecoins , not TH because I refuse to believe people are that desperately. . ... in need, that they go ham on TH with their money in comparison to, how they would with bonds and rune coins.

You are very misinformed.
Miu said:
Breakdown of Jagex's 2017 Revenue from official financial Fukong Financial Report:

TH: £22.42 mil = 49.7%
Runecoin: £2.48 mil = 5.5%
Bond: £20.19 mil = 44.7%
MTX profit total: £45.09 = 100%


King Tumeken said:
I just told you how it did. So really, now you can see how it does makes sense why an older, crappier version of this game is more popular.

Runescape needs an entirely new REMASTERING so it could be COMPARABLE to a modern game like we have today. Otherwise, what? This dies, and OS stays around on mobile?


Again, misinformed. You assume change is synonymous with progress, when change into regression is also possible. EoC was, and still is, a watered down and generic combat system for MMOs. It abandoned the principles of what made runescape enjoyable and tried to appeal to the mass market. Tried.

Compare fallout 4 and 76, for example. ;)

I do agree that Runescape needs a remastering, though. We're well overdue for another combat overhaul.
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19-Dec-2018 09:32:44

King Tumeken
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No, no, no, no... please, don't do this! Ahaha. .

I made one assumption. I can't be "misinformed" on an opinion :P


I made an opinion, I made no references; I made no statements with facts or reinforced evidence.


I am not here to debate, or to read statistics and perform a valid analysis. I'm not here to argue. I don't want Treasure Hunter to go :(



So, when you agree that this game needs a REMASTERING you agree with my only point I made, with evidence and a reinforced statement ;)
I am glad though, because if anything, that IS what needs to be done. Jagex needs to take a risk, and go to the bank and get a good loan. I'm not Zeus, but I feel strongly that this game, REMASTERED like Today's Games, would attract new players like crazy. In fact, this could easily become the best game out there if they did so. Runescape offers tons of Freedom, that it's almost like every game inside of one - but it's click-play.

The value of bonds and runecoins together may hardly equal up to the amount of Keys being bought, but I did not make a point on the matter, I made an opinion. I still fail even after reading the evidence you gave me, to believe people pay more for Keys than they do for Coins and Bonds together :P

Lastly, I didn't compare Runescape to Fallout or other MMO's. I compared it to Oldschool and Classic. To say it's not an improvement in graphics or combat would be absurd.

There are so many forums it's hard to stay focused on one, but I hope this settled any miscommunication. Cheers and have a good one!
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20-Dec-2018 01:27:46 - Last edited on 20-Dec-2018 01:31:08 by King Tumeken

Miu

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King Tumeken said:
No, no, no, no... please, don't do this! Ahaha. .

I made one assumption. I can't be "misinformed" on an opinion :P


I made an opinion, I made no references; I made no statements with facts or reinforced evidence.


I am not here to debate, or to read statistics and perform a valid analysis. I'm not here to argue. I don't want Treasure Hunter to go :(



So, when you agree that this game needs a REMASTERING you agree with my only point I made, with evidence and a reinforced statement ;)
I am glad though, because if anything, that IS what needs to be done. Jagex needs to take a risk, and go to the bank and get a good loan. I'm not Zeus, but I feel strongly that this game, REMASTERED like Today's Games, would attract new players like crazy. In fact, this could easily become the best game out there if they did so. Runescape offers tons of Freedom, that it's almost like every game inside of one - but it's click-play.

The value of bonds and runecoins together may hardly equal up to the amount of Keys being bought, but I did not make a point on the matter, I made an opinion. I still fail even after reading the evidence you gave me, to believe people pay more for Keys than they do for Coins and Bonds together :P

Lastly, I didn't compare Runescape to Fallout or other MMO's. I compared it to Oldschool and Classic. To say it's not an improvement in graphics or combat would be absurd.

There are so many forums it's hard to stay focused on one, but I hope this settled any miscommunication. Cheers and have a good one!


Apologies if I got a little aggressive there. Yeah I understand what you were trying to say now.
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20-Dec-2018 07:59:45

Dilbert2001
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OP created this thread more than 16 months ago but obviously he is still playing actively in this game as he recent busy activity logs shows. Congrats to the WC milestone anyway. :)

Obviously, TH is just a game feature of Runescape. Even people who cried against TH don't seem to be really bothered by TH. Otherwise they wouldn't have bought Gold Premier Club membership again.

Yes, as OP wrote in Post 3 of Page 63 in this thread:

"OP certainly didnt remove himself, just focused on other pressing issues elsewhere. "


Certainly Runescape has a lot of attractive and addicting pressing issues not named TH that even TH "haters" are willing to spend money and time on. :)

20-Dec-2018 16:33:50

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said:
OP created this thread more than 16 months ago but obviously he is still playing actively in this game as he recent busy activity logs shows. Congrats to the WC milestone anyway. :)

Obviously, TH is just a game feature of Runescape. Even people who cried against TH don't seem to be really bothered by TH. Otherwise they wouldn't have bought Gold Premier Club membership again.

Yes, as OP wrote in Post 3 of Page 63 in this thread:

"OP certainly didnt remove himself, just focused on other pressing issues elsewhere. "


Certainly Runescape has a lot of attractive and addicting pressing issues not named TH that even TH "haters" are willing to spend money and time on. :)


This thread is about TH, not OP's highscores or membership status. Playing the game doesn't mean you condone TH in any way, so you may as well drop whatever you're trying to insinuate.
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23-Dec-2018 08:31:50

Dilbert2001
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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
OP created this thread more than 16 months ago but obviously he is still playing actively in this game as he recent busy activity logs shows. Congrats to the WC milestone anyway. :)

Obviously, TH is just a game feature of Runescape. Even people who cried against TH don't seem to be really bothered by TH. Otherwise they wouldn't have bought Gold Premier Club membership again.

Yes, as OP wrote in Post 3 of Page 63 in this thread:

"OP certainly didnt remove himself, just focused on other pressing issues elsewhere. "


Certainly Runescape has a lot of attractive and addicting pressing issues not named TH that even TH "haters" are willing to spend money and time on. :)


This thread is about TH, not OP's highscores or membership status. Playing the game doesn't mean you condone TH in any way, so you may as well drop whatever you're trying to insinuate.


I am not strictly talking about OP, nor am I mean anything to OP's membership status and hiscores. It is just an example to illustrate TH is just an extremely tiny game feature in RS3. All players, not necessarily OP only, still play RS3 even if they don't like TH therefore there is no reason to "remove it".

On the other hand, you are strictly talking about me, and it is really nothing regarding to this thread. Thus, this is my last and only post regarding your question.

23-Dec-2018 15:19:22

Miu

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Dilbert2001 said:
All players, not necessarily OP only, still play RS3 even if they don't like TH therefore there is no reason to "remove it".


"All RS3 Players play Runescape."


Could you say anything more obvious? Yes, by definition, RS3 players play Runescape.
"Therefore there is no reason to remove it."
Dwindling players isn't a reason to remove it? If a small userbase is the goal of TH, then yes, I suppose it has been successful and should be kept in place to keep people from playing RS3.

I want RS3 to succeed, more than just in retaining its most addicted players. That's why TH needs to be removed.
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24-Dec-2018 00:12:32

Dilbert2001
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Miu said:
Dilbert2001 said:
All players, not necessarily OP only, still play RS3 even if they don't like TH therefore there is no reason to "remove it".


"All RS3 Players play Runescape."


Could you say anything more obvious? Yes, by definition, RS3 players play Runescape.
"Therefore there is no reason to remove it."
Dwindling players isn't a reason to remove it? If a small userbase is the goal of TH, then yes, I suppose it has been successful and should be kept in place to keep people from playing RS3.

I want RS3 to succeed, more than just in retaining its most addicted players. That's why TH needs to be removed.


On Page 76, Post 4, I asked the question:

"What is the RS3 membership count you have now, and from what source? Please specify."


...and still nobody can official show how many RS3 members Jagex have before and now.

What "dwindling players"?

Jagex's investors want Jagex to succeed more than anybody else. They get their wishes already by seeing a lot of real world success with real world $$$ revenue and profits. :D

24-Dec-2018 01:23:56

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