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CuddleBucket
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Salvage would be smithable & take 5 ticks per item.

The cost would be 2 bars for tiny, increasing by 2 bars per size, up to 10 bars for huge.

This would support the rework by keeping ores & bars in demand as it would restore the function of people smithing for Invention components.

The double bar cost is to prevent alchscape.

But there are certainly other possible formulas, such as 1 bar per size, + 1 bar.
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21-Feb-2019 10:53:40

Rikornak
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10 rune bars for the equivalent of 40k is still a bad joke.

A rune bar has an alch value of 250 coins - so to be fitted in the formula it needs to be 32 bars per size (since it's 8k coins per size) - so 160 bars for an huge item.

Next balancing problem: XP needs to be drastically cut per bar.
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21-Feb-2019 11:26:33

Serene Steel
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Rikornak said:
10 rune bars for the equivalent of 40k is still a bad joke.

A rune bar has an alch value of 250 coins - so to be fitted in the formula it needs to be 32 bars per size (since it's 8k coins per size) - so 160 bars for an huge item.

Next balancing problem: XP needs to be drastically cut per bar.


I actually would t mind if it was fast to smith, terrible XP.
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21-Feb-2019 15:19:49

Rikornak
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Let's say a huge salvage uses 160 bars (it just can't be less due to the alch value): 160 rune bars are normally worth 38400 xp (or 240 per bar), so something working could be cutting the xp by 100 - giving 384 xp per salvage smithed - considering the speed OP suggested. It still would be faster than regular smithing, but likely much more expensive (as I highly doubt rune bars will ever drop close to those 250 coins alch value) Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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21-Feb-2019 18:15:16 - Last edited on 21-Feb-2019 18:15:39 by Rikornak

CuddleBucket
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Ok so we're getting somewhere but it's moving away from salvage.

1 smithable item per metal that is quick to make & can only be disassembled.

It could be like a failed smithing item, like a lump or a mess.

Perhaps it is a smithing 'practice' item?

Something you smith quickly that doesn't resemble anything else.

Maybe we could call them 'parts'?

For example, we can now smith Rune Parts?
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23-Feb-2019 01:51:05

Rikornak
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I guess it actually wouldn't cause any economical issues that way - and maybe to fix the training issue it could be worth the xp of a single swing on an item of the respective metal. Also since it's loosened from the regular salvage it could be made for every metal up to elder rune. Not sure if it should be unlocked with the regular metal items - or a bit later (e.g. rune at level 55) Improvements: Tooltip / (F2P) QoL v2
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23-Feb-2019 06:12:40

CuddleBucket
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Cool :)

This could be a blueprint to prevent the 'Invention Effect' in any future reworked skills.

I have no need for these items but I know it has effected lower levels & I wonder if this might be a decent way to fill that gap?
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23-Feb-2019 08:53:29 - Last edited on 23-Feb-2019 08:55:03 by CuddleBucket

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