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Feldric
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If you are like me and find the names of the four new metals absolutely uninspiring, obscure and totally forgettable, then you'll agree that a renaming is in order. Why not use variations on the names of existing metals from the periodic table? Those are much more memorable, and it's not as if Jagex doesn't already use the names of everyday metals and alloys in game, such as copper, tin, iron, gold, silver, and steel . I propose the following scheme (we can always solicit proposals from members for better names or missing names):

Orikalkum - call the metal Vanadium and the principal ore vanadite (I haven't yet come up with a suitable name for the secondary ore)
Necronium - name the metal Chromium and the principal ore chromite (we can find a reasonable name for the secondary ore)
Bane - name the metal Iridium and the ore iridite
Elder rune - name the actual metal Titanium and the ore titanite (dark titanite and light titanite ore). After all, titanium has come to symbolize strength in everyday parlance. Elder rune would then become "titan rune", by analogy with "titan steel".

20-Mar-2019 07:24:11 - Last edited on 21-Mar-2019 07:21:48 by Feldric

Rikornak
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Thing is: Most fantasy worlds use IRL metals as their low tier stuff, while moving on to ones not existing in reality later on - sometimes common shared ones (like mithril), sometimes also more original stuff (like runite). I really don't get it why we should move back to IRL metals, after having had a few fantasy ones.

Especially regarding bane you do not seem to understand what makes it special and why it wouldn't work as iridium.
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Kikizosan
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Not saying this to be mean, but your alternative suggestions are no more or less uninspiring, obscure or forgettable. This sort of thing is always going to be subjective.

20-Mar-2019 08:28:54

Feldric
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Rikornak said:
Thing is: Most fantasy worlds use IRL metals as their low tier stuff, while moving on to ones not existing in reality later on - sometimes common shared ones (like mithril), sometimes also more original stuff (like runite). I really don't get it why we should move back to IRL metals, after having had a few fantasy ones.

Especially regarding bane you do not seem to understand what makes it special and why it wouldn't work as iridium.


I fully understand the reference to "bane ore" or "dragonbane ore". That word may probably be the one exception to this litany of dull and lackluster metal names. Is it unreasonable to expect the roots of these names to be at least somewhat recognizable? "Vulcanite" or "vulcanium" would be an example of something recognizable. Similarly, "Titanium" and "titanite". I just don't get the obscure and humdrum roots, fantasy or not.

21-Mar-2019 07:41:39

Feldric
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Kikizosan said:
Not saying this to be mean, but your alternative suggestions are no more or less uninspiring, obscure or forgettable. This sort of thing is always going to be subjective.


Any reasonably well-educated person in today's world would recognize the names I proposed.

21-Mar-2019 07:43:17

Rikornak
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Feldric said:
Rikornak said:
Thing is: Most fantasy worlds use IRL metals as their low tier stuff, while moving on to ones not existing in reality later on - sometimes common shared ones (like mithril), sometimes also more original stuff (like runite). I really don't get it why we should move back to IRL metals, after having had a few fantasy ones.

Especially regarding bane you do not seem to understand what makes it special and why it wouldn't work as iridium.


I fully understand the reference to "bane ore" or "dragonbane ore". That word may probably be the one exception to this litany of dull and lackluster metal names. Is it unreasonable to expect the roots of these names to be at least somewhat recognizable? "Vulcanite" or "vulcanium" would be an example of something recognizable. Similarly, "Titanium" and "titanite". I just don't get the obscure and humdrum roots, fantasy or not.


I ignore the secondary ores for now:

- Orikalkum is the stuff dragon armour is made from, albeit we just use it in a less sophisticated way than the dragonkin could. Fairly sure that name is around for quite some time now. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum
- Necrite is the stuff barrows armour is made from, albeit I think that name is newer (i.e. only created in the context of the m&s rework). Barrows armour doesn't look like chrome right?
- Animica certainly is new, but well: It is related to anima - the light kind to seren, the dark one to zaros.
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21-Mar-2019 07:48:00 - Last edited on 21-Mar-2019 07:50:29 by Rikornak

Kikizosan
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Feldric said:
Kikizosan said:
Not saying this to be mean, but your alternative suggestions are no more or less uninspiring, obscure or forgettable. This sort of thing is always going to be subjective.


Any reasonably well-educated person in today's world would recognize the names I proposed.


And while recognition is a good thing to have, the names we currently have are, to any semi-invested RS player, equally recognisable if not more so. The real-world metals are not inherently inspiring and they're relatively (compared to iron and steel) obscure too.

21-Mar-2019 08:34:07

Feldric
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Rikornak said:
Feldric said:
Rikornak said:
Thing is: Most fantasy worlds use IRL metals as their low tier stuff, while moving on to ones not existing in reality later on - sometimes common shared ones (like mithril), sometimes also more original stuff (like runite). I really don't get it why we should move back to IRL metals, after having had a few fantasy ones.

Especially regarding bane you do not seem to understand what makes it special and why it wouldn't work as iridium.


I fully understand the reference to "bane ore" or "dragonbane ore". That word may probably be the one exception to this litany of dull and lackluster metal names. Is it unreasonable to expect the roots of these names to be at least somewhat recognizable? "Vulcanite" or "vulcanium" would be an example of something recognizable. Similarly, "Titanium" and "titanite". I just don't get the obscure and humdrum roots, fantasy or not.


I ignore the secondary ores for now:

- Orikalkum is the stuff dragon armour is made from, albeit we just use it in a less sophisticated way than the dragonkin could. Fairly sure that name is around for quite some time now. Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orichalcum
- Necrite is the stuff barrows armour is made from, albeit I think that name is newer (i.e. only created in the context of the m&s rework). Barrows armour doesn't look like chrome right?
- Animica certainly is new, but well: It is related to anima - the light kind to seren, the dark one to zaros.


Fair enough!

22-Mar-2019 08:35:01

Feldric
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Feldric

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Kikizosan said:
Feldric said:
Kikizosan said:
Not saying this to be mean, but your alternative suggestions are no more or less uninspiring, obscure or forgettable. This sort of thing is always going to be subjective.


Any reasonably well-educated person in today's world would recognize the names I proposed.


And while recognition is a good thing to have, the names we currently have are, to any semi-invested RS player, equally recognisable if not more so. The real-world metals are not inherently inspiring and they're relatively (compared to iron and steel) obscure too.


Reasonable argument.

22-Mar-2019 08:35:28

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