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Perpl
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Perpl

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I've always wanted a more communal, shared aspect to Runescape. Sure, you can always boss or pk together, but what if you're drastically different levels from each other?

Originally I posed the idea of a shared PoH, with some sort of shortlist of friends you could add to enable a central hangout with your friends. However, it was brought to my attention that this could be something very difficult to code knowing OSRS. The next best thing?

A shared "Clan Chest."

The chest would appear in every bank, much like a voting booth, and it would essentially be a shared bank among your friends. For security's sake, imagine a clan chat, but rather than ranking a player up you would be allowing them access to depositing/withdrawing from the chest.

I need some way to be able to play with my lower level friends, and with mobile coming out I've got a good few more that'll be on their way. It'd be awesome to say "yo dude, I just threw a d scim in the chest for you," or just have a bank tab to grow together.

I really think this'll bring a great new social aspect to OSRS.

20-Mar-2018 02:29:15

Perpl
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How It Works

Security is an obvious concern of a suggestion like this, so I figure I aughta go into a bit more depth on what I mean by "imagine a clan chat."

In order to access your own Clan Chest, you would open a chest at any bank, type your name, and then be able to view the contents. In order to give others access to your Clan Chest, you could click on the chest settings, then view the list of friends similar to how it works in a clan chat.
From here, you are able to give permission, or a rank, to individuals on your friends list whom you trust. Only after an individual is given permission are they able to deposit/withdraw anything from the Clan Chest.
Additionally, and for ease of use for larger clans, I imagine certain tabs being accessed only by certain ranks. Using similar ranks in clan chests, you could give everyone in the clan access to Tab 1, however only higher ranks could access Tab 2/3/etc.

In order to open a friend's chest, you could similarly enter their name at a Clan Chest, and then view the contents of the chest. If this individual has given you permission to use the chest, you can use the chest. Otherwise, you cannot. No scamming.
Clan Chests can be viewed by anyone by default, though only those given permission can use them. A private Clan Chest mode can be activated in the settings.

20-Mar-2018 02:29:19 - Last edited on 11-Jul-2018 04:41:56 by Perpl

Perpl
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Addressing Potential Scams

Scamming seems to be the main counterpoint to this suggestion, and one that I feel doesn't shut this suggestion down in the slightest.

If you were to give an item to a friend, and they run with said item, then they were never your friend. You should have never gave them that item.
If you were to use a shared bank with someone, and they run with the items you deposited, then they were never your friend. You should have never shared a bank with them.

A player cannot scam you through means of a shared bank unless you were to place yourself in a position in which you could be scammed.


Everyone has bad memories of being scammed on this game back pre-EoC, and yeah it sucked, but that was ages ago. The current playerbase is mostly comprised of adults in their 20s, all of whom now know better than to give someone virtual items in a video game if they're worried they'd be scammed. If you don't have faith in the community, at least have faith in the logic of the majority of the playerbase.

20-Mar-2018 02:29:23 - Last edited on 11-Jul-2018 04:42:44 by Perpl

Che-Che
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I think a version of this could work, but it needs to be done right. We would need a history page that shows player names or something of the sort to deter a player from emptying the chest. Withdrawal limits (different for each rank) imposed by the clan leader? I don't know the best implementation. I can support the concept. Best Regards,

King
Che-Che

20-Mar-2018 04:38:06 - Last edited on 20-Mar-2018 04:39:33 by Che-Che

Perpl
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Che-Che said:
I think a version of this could work, but it needs to be done right. We would need a history page that shows player names or something of the sort to deter a player from emptying the chest. Withdrawal limits (different for each rank) imposed by the clan leader? I don't know the best implementation. I can support the concept.

I completely agree with the addition of an activity log. Withdrawal limits would probably be easy to implement via access to specific tabs for specific ranks, too.

20-Mar-2018 06:49:44

Camelus
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I don't really see the point. You could easily just trade those people. This seems like a super niche update, and as Muad said, it seems like it'd just be used to scam people. Even with a history on it that shows who withdrew what, what's going to stop them from just taking everything, then leaving the clan they already may have been planning to leave? It's not like you could report them for taking it from the chest when you chose to put the items there. So it would end up being rarely used out of fear of people taking items and leaving. Meanwhile, you can simply trade your friends if you want to give them the dragon scimitar, rather than doing this. A camel is an even-toed ungulate within the genus
Camelus

26-Mar-2018 02:42:52

Perpl
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the muad dib said:
I foresee a lot of scamming with this.

Of course, but scamming happens on the regular. There's a warning message before you go into the wilderness, but people still get lured. All you can do with something like this is give a warning, and only grant access to certain individuals.

Camelus said:
I don't really see the point. You could easily just trade those people. This seems like a super niche update, and as Muad said, it seems like it'd just be used to scam people. Even with a history on it that shows who withdrew what, what's going to stop them from just taking everything, then leaving the clan they already may have been planning to leave? It's not like you could report them for taking it from the chest when you chose to put the items there. So it would end up being rarely used out of fear of people taking items and leaving. Meanwhile, you can simply trade your friends if you want to give them the dragon scimitar, rather than doing this.

I know you can just trade people, but what if they're not online? This allows you to let a friend borrow something much more conveniently. "Yo, get online so I can borrow your BGS" is much different than "Can you leave the BGS in the chest for me?"

And as I mentioned above, scams always happen. If you already trusted your friend by trading them your item, what's the difference between that and leaving it in a chest for them? Again, a rank system which allows only certain individuals to even withdraw from the chest is a huge workaround for scams in the first place. As for reporting a person, you're right, same as when you trade someone your items and they run with it. It was on you, so no difference there.

I just think it'd be a convenient, and fun, feature. Having a goal between friends, like growing the bank chest to 50m, or collecting a certain amount of something, can just add a new and simple social element into OSRS.

26-Mar-2018 06:19:34

kaps67
May Member 2017

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I love the idea of this. I do see a lot of people in the thread are worried about scamming, the solution I think to the problem would be for it to work like item lending used to. A player would deposit the item inside of the clan chest, which a clan member could take out for a period of 1, 3, 6, and 12 hours. After the item returns to the chest where it can be reclaimed again. The owner of the item will be allowed to reclaim it at anytime. Too keep players from dying by losing the item in combat there will be a 5 minute timer if the item is being reclaimed by the owner.

18-Apr-2018 20:48:04

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