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Dilbert2001

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Tuffty said:

I think Jagex also need to do a little more. Meaning take a few of these so called hackers to court. Get a few jailed or huge massive fines. It might calm down after that. But until action is taken and it's well advertised within the community they will still make YouTube and Twitch pages to get access to other peoples accounts. :(


Youtube should take those hackers to court, not Jagex.

Twitch took John and Jane Does 1 - 100 to Court, so can Youtube.

It is just a matter of time when the Fair Play Alliance, ESA and such will force the social media to act if they don't act voluntarily. The governments can't force the industry to act but the industry will certainly act when the integrity of their business is being violated. :)

17-Jul-2019 18:49:12

Dilbert2001

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Twitch Interactive, Inc. v. John and Jane Does 1 through 100, 3:19-cv-03418, U.S. District Court, Northern District of California (San Francisco)
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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-06-15/twitch-sues-troll-streamers-over-violent-videos-pornography

"Twitch says it works to remove offensive posts and ban the accounts of the users who post them, but that the videos quickly reappear, apparently posted by bots, while other bots work to drive users to the impermissible content. Twitch temporarily suspended new creators from streaming after a May 25 attack by trolls.

The company said that if it learns the identities of the anonymous streamers who have abused its terms of service -- named in the lawsuit as “John and Jane Does 1-100” -- it will ask the court to prohibit them from using the platform and order them to pay restitution and damages."


As we can see from this lawsuit, clearly trolls put up law breaking content in Steam's game Artifact. However, Steam doesn't have to sue the trolls because premise of the crime was the Twitch Platform. It is Amazon's responsibilities to protect their business and their customers. Twitch filed the lawsuit rightfully, not Steam.

Likewise, it is a lot more appropriate for us, youtube viewers, the Fair Play Alliance and the ESA to pressure Youtube to unmask the Jonh and Jane Does who put law breaking materials on their Jagex streams, through court actions. :)

Let us all praise Twitch's legal action. Since their lawsuit, noticeably trolling activities among Twitch vids have been much lower. Wasn't it Twitch phishing links Jagex players used to complain a lot. Now that the complaints have changed to Youtube. If we viewers keep the presuure on Youtube, eventually they will be gone soon. :D

17-Jul-2019 22:23:13 - Last edited on 17-Jul-2019 22:52:54 by Dilbert2001

Dilbert2001

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Louiellen said:
Dilbert2001 said:
Tuffty said:

I think Jagex also need to do a little more. Meaning take a few of these so called hackers to court. Get a few jailed or huge massive fines. It might calm down after that. But until action is taken and it's well advertised within the community they will still make YouTube and Twitch pages to get access to other peoples accounts. :(


Youtube should take those hackers to court, not Jagex.

Twitch took John and Jane Does 1 - 100 to Court, so can Youtube.

It is just a matter of time when the Fair Play Alliance, ESA and such will force the social media to act if they don't act voluntarily. The governments can't force the industry to act but the industry will certainly act when the integrity of their business is being violated. :)


Well, Youtube's goal is to monetize videos. It is not really in their interest to censor videos, if such videos are "popular".

The responsibility falls on us, the users to use our critical thinking in order not to fall for scams.


So is Twitch's goal to monetize videoes.It is also not really in their interest to censor vidoes.

However, when the damages of malicious, if not unlawful, content outweigh their benefits, Twitch did what a smart business do - exercise their legal rights to call out Uncle Sam's powers to unmask John and Jane Does 1 - 100.

Youtube should do the same too, and I think they certainly will, if the stupid trolls keep messing with the good part of the gaming community and the industry.

19-Jul-2019 16:59:45

Dilbert2001

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Asahel Frost said:

As Louiellen said, by far the best counter to phishing is education, so people recognise it for what it is.


Not only the gamers and consumers need to be educated, the gaming industry and its related businesses need to be educated too. Thus the formation of industry watch dogs like the Fair Play Alliance.

Unity is POWER. Remember a few years ago, DDoSing was running wild against the gaming industry and then spreaded to the consumer service sectors? Guess what, it aggravated the good community and the Authroities and the main stream businesses UNITED to quickly caused a couple of vocal hackers groups to vanish in just a couple of weeks. See? Most internet providers cooperate with main stream businesses and games to provide a swift solution against DDoS attacks now. :)

19-Jul-2019 17:07:59

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