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Games are seasonal. On a year to year basis, I think the actual population of Jagex's games are higher now than before, or at least the paid members are higher.

Two fallacies here as usual:

(1) Concurrent players are not the population of Runescape. Concurrent players are no longer the 250-300k they used to be many years ago, but it is because of players having a lot of other things to do (e.g. many other games to play, viewing other esports games instead of playing Runescape, other non-game activities such as shopping or socializing in other media, etc), bot bans, among other reasons.

(2) Runescape population is Jagex's population actually. Runescape players are also OSRS players and vice versa. They can play both games... or perhaps a lot more soon as Jagex is releasing many more games in the not so distant future. :)

26-Jul-2019 17:25:48

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Kings Abbot said:
You can see RS3 and OSRS populations for the past six and a half years here: http://www.misplaceditems.com/rs_tools/graph/


I see OSRS is losing "population" big time the last few months and while RS3 is not exactly exploding in "population", it pretty much is holding its ground steadily.

It also shows "population" spikes up nicely over DXP weekends, as usual and always. :)

26-Jul-2019 18:59:33

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Niyah said:
The problem with RuneScape is that there is so much dead content, dead areas, and most players congregate to minute parts of the big map that has amassed over the years. It doesn't help that the average player on RuneScape 3 appears to be maxed.

I'm not sure how Jagex would fix that. Perhaps reducing the amount of servers, but I'm not sure if anyone really wants that.


Not so good content like Menaphos draws less player attention. The same thing to the empty "new" OSRS Priffdinas.

The good thing in RS3 is Jagex is making new and creative content instead of the same old, same old, dead content in Menaphos and the OSRS Priffdinas. That's why RS3 is still holding its ground in a rapidly declining "population" environment in other MMORPG incluidng the other one of Jagex's own.

26-Jul-2019 19:09:21 - Last edited on 26-Jul-2019 19:09:50 by Dilbert2001

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Miu said:
The player counter for rs3 also includes the osrs concurrent players, as well as people currently lobbied in rs3. It is not an accurate reflection of the amount of people that are actually playing in rs3's worlds.

To make matters worse, rs3 has loads of instanced scenarios and content. It also has a bigger world, as well as a large number of different worlds (servers) to choose from. As a consequence, the small playerbase of RS3 appears even more sparse than it truly is, because the playerbase is so spread out when they're not hidden away in an instance or sleeping in the lobby.


What's the difference between the "population" in an instance or in the open world? No difference at all to Jagex as they are all PLAYERS.

So OSRS just got a BIG underground dungeon filled with lowly mobs like bloodvelds in Priffdinas similar to RS3 too. Are their small playerbase getting even smaller? Not at all, their small "playerbase" that dropped from 150k-160k to half now is still the same 800k-ish regardless they are in an instance, underground, or in the open world. They are still the same small and rapidly dropping OSRS "playerbase" but they are not becoming even smaller just because they are not in the open world. :)

27-Jul-2019 18:42:47

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Witchi said:
Runescape is big, and RS3 has less overall players than OSRS, plus the worlds, and the many content people could be doing. I think the game is fine, but not if you compare it to OSRS. RS3 is still more populated than most mmorpgs out there lol.


OP's question is:

"Has the RS3 population increased or decreased over the last months?"


No matter how and where you look at it, or you even mistaken concurrent players as "population", you can only see RS3 is doing much better than OSRS over the last months.

OSRS has been bleeding "players" much faster than RS3, plus the bots and lack of content real players could be doing. I think the game is fine, but not if you compare it to RS3. OSRS is still more "populated" than many mmorpgs out there. :D

And don't forget many mmorpgs out there have only cosmetics MTX but RS3 and OSRS both have bond that players can buy instant endgame gear with real money. But obviously, pay-to-win doesn't kill both games.

27-Jul-2019 22:06:15 - Last edited on 27-Jul-2019 22:06:47 by Dilbert2001

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xox Lola xox said:
"No matter how and where you look at it, or you even mistaken concurrent players as "population", you can only see RS3 is doing much better than OSRS over the last months"

Player counter says they have two thirds of the population in osrs. Don't know where you're looking.


https://www.reddit.com/r/2007scape/comments/9w6z3o/150k/

Do you know OSRS's "population" dropped almost half in the last months? Now that you know. :D

27-Jul-2019 22:39:10

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xox Lola xox said:
Immortalized said:
yeah i ask jagex to make this pop up all the time so i can gripe about it... right




I logged in to this, cant seem to find the don't show again box.


You get the same Twitch Prime offer in OSRS too. Sorry, even if you can turn off popups in RS3, you can't turn off the same Twitch Prime offer in OSRS.

Since Twitch Prime covers BOTH RS3 and OSRS memberships, OSRS members who subscribed to the same Twitch Prime will also get the Umbral Chest. Now that OSRS Twitch Prime subscribers know they have an Umbral Chest free for them in their RS3 account. :D

What does Twitch Prime have to do with the "population" of RS3 or OSRS? Do you mean RS3's "population" is holding up well because while OSRS's is nosediving because of Twitch Prime? :D

27-Jul-2019 22:54:09

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xox Lola xox said:
Dilbert2001 said:
xox Lola xox said:
Immortalized said:
yeah i ask jagex to make this pop up all the time so i can gripe about it... right




I logged in to this, cant seem to find the don't show again box.


You get the same Twitch Prime offer in OSRS too. Sorry, even if you can turn off popups in RS3, you can't turn off the same Twitch Prime offer in OSRS.

Since Twitch Prime covers BOTH RS3 and OSRS memberships, OSRS members who subscribed to the same Twitch Prime will also get the Umbral Chest. Now that OSRS Twitch Prime subscribers know they have an Umbral Chest free for them in their RS3 account. :D

What does Twitch Prime have to do with the "population" of RS3 or OSRS? Do you mean RS3's "population" is holding up well because while OSRS's is nosediving because of Twitch Prime? :D


I only speak English.

Maybe we could get draco back.


Thank you for your comment and I believe everybody in these forums can speak and read English. In fact, they can just take a look at the 150k OSRS "population" and the 80k now which is just numbers and not even English and tell the story. :D:D:D

27-Jul-2019 23:03:30

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xox Lola xox said:




Math not your strongest subject either huh?


Thank you for strengthening my FACT 9000 times.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/562728-runescape/77169683

"Post-Mobile, OSRS is over QUADRUPLE the RS3 Players (80% Majority of Total)"


Uh Oh! Some games's population nosedived so much it is not "over quadruple" the RS3 players anymore. :(

27-Jul-2019 23:19:34

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xox Lola xox said:
xox Lola xox said:
"No matter how and where you look at it, or you even mistaken concurrent players as "population", you can only see RS3 is doing much better than OSRS over the last months"

Player counter says they have two thirds of the population in osrs.
Don't know where you're looking.


strengthening my own point you were just arguing with actually.

Lone Nature said:
Hi,

I have a serious question: "Has the RS3 population increased or decreased over the last months?"

When I play the game, I have no problem keeping myself entertained, but I noticed that most places are abandoned.
When I am at Menaphos, there are hardly any players there.

The game feels dead if I'm frank. Not the game itself ofcourse, but the current player population.

I'd like to know, thnx.


Clearly you are not answering the questions related to this thread and are babbling for post count. Hopefully draco will be back soon as he is far superior at that.


Again, the question RELATED TO THIS THREAD is:

"I have a serious question: "Has the RS3 population increased or decreased over the last months?""


My quotes clearly showed months ago:

"Right now it is just under 127,000 OSRS to just under 31,000 RS3."


But now, currently, at this moment, RS3 has over 40k "population" vs the 31k months ago, and OSRS nosedived and it no longer is "quaduple" population of RS3. Crystal clear.

You are not answering OP's question at all. What was RS3's population months ago according to you? Has it declined or increased? You showed nothing except you clearly showed us and your own friends OSRS's population nosedived comparing to RS3's the last months. :D

27-Jul-2019 23:32:08 - Last edited on 27-Jul-2019 23:35:21 by Dilbert2001

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xox Lola xox said:
Dilbert, it doesn't matter how many people got twitch prime to play old school to this person, they are wondering why rs3 is dead, you are so off topic without a point you're practically a hot air balloon and talking to you is highly unpleasant. Worse then the 2 people I talked to in game, one of whom called me a noob and the other who wanted to know how to speed up runespanning. R.I.P there. Gl with that reading comprehension.


Again x 9000. This thread is not about what RS3 is dead or whatever. OP asked a question whether RS3's "population" has increased or decreased, utterly not the hot air bolloon and Twitch Prime you tried to deflect it to.

I don't care who called you what names and you called Draco or whoever whatever names. It simply means nothing to this thread and thus my last comment on this whatsoever.

The fact pertaining to this thread remains, clearly so, RS3 is still maintaining a very healthy concurrent player count (that's is not even the true population which is a whole lot higher" and for those who insist to compare it to OSRS... sorry OSRS's "population" has nosedived so much that even RS3's modest gain of a few hundreds makes OSRS looks really really bad.

27-Jul-2019 23:44:44

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Lone Nature said:
Hi,

When I play the game, I have no problem keeping myself entertained, but I noticed that most places are abandoned. When I am at Menaphos, there are hardly any players there.


If you have no problem keeping yourself entertained, then the game is always full of more than enough players, at least to you.

Why don't you go to Sinkholes at 30 minutes past every hour and find yourself a lot of players to play with?

At this very moment, RS3 has over 40k players. Obviously, there are more players than most of the times they have in the last few months, and more importantly, you can't team with all 40k players and you don't need to.

28-Jul-2019 00:19:41

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Immortalized said:
well when you shove microtransactions in people's faces every day and release lackluster updates to boot it's not a surprise there's only a few remaining, probably ballooning the missing costs via mtx and giving illusion of success


I would really like to know where are those millions* who have joined the game according to Dilbert. Hard to believe that people sign up for not playing the game.

* and we are talking about about unique accounts here, no bots and alts (again, according to Dilbert).


Do they have to all log in at the same time?

Jagex has officially reported over 1 million paid members. Do they have to all log in? Why don't see 1 million population concurrent players ever? Where are they? I am sure you don't see many in Priffdinas.

28-Jul-2019 00:29:30

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xox Lola xox said:
Dilbert2001 said:
xox Lola xox said:


guess which line is rs3


Definitely not the nosediving red line. :D


No, it is definitely not that one! Correct! It is the brown one which shows nothing but clear uninterrupted decline. In fact I cant think of a single double xp or bxp weekend that didn't show an increase in numbers online followed by more clear uninterrupted decline. In fact it is like your math is worse than I thought and you are being dishonest and untruthful about the decline in population. Hopefully we can draco back. He was much better.


What? I see the brown line is holding steadily. The uninterrupted decline comes from the
RED
line. Thank Guthix, it is not RS3. :)

28-Jul-2019 00:41:35

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xox Lola xox said:
Dilbert2001 said:
xox Lola xox said:
Dilbert2001 said:
xox Lola xox said:


guess which line is rs3


Definitely not the nosediving red line. :D


No, it is definitely not that one! Correct! It is the brown one which shows nothing but clear uninterrupted decline. In fact I cant think of a single double xp or bxp weekend that didn't show an increase in numbers online followed by more clear uninterrupted decline. In fact it is like your math is worse than I thought and you are being dishonest and untruthful about the decline in population. Hopefully we can draco back. He was much better.


What? I see the brown line is holding steadily. The uninterrupted decline comes from the
RED
line. Thank Guthix, it is not RS3. :)


Have you tried specsavers?


I think RSOF users, as well as whoever wants to see your graph can read the brown line is holding on steadily but the red one is the nosediving one but it is not RS3. Thank Guthix we don't need any glasses. :D:D:D

28-Jul-2019 00:49:49 - Last edited on 28-Jul-2019 00:50:08 by Dilbert2001

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xox Lola xox said:
Dilbert2001 said:
xox Lola xox said:
Dilbert2001 said:
xox Lola xox said:
Dilbert2001 said:
xox Lola xox said:


guess which line is rs3


Definitely not the nosediving red line. :D


No, it is definitely not that one! Correct! It is the brown one which shows nothing but clear uninterrupted decline. In fact I cant think of a single double xp or bxp weekend that didn't show an increase in numbers online followed by more clear uninterrupted decline. In fact it is like your math is worse than I thought and you are being dishonest and untruthful about the decline in population. Hopefully we can draco back. He was much better.


What? I see the brown line is holding steadily. The uninterrupted decline comes from the
RED
line. Thank Guthix, it is not RS3. :)


Have you tried specsavers?


I think RSOF users, as well as whoever wants to see your graph can read the brown line is holding on steadily but the red one is the nosediving one but it is not RS3. Thank Guthix we don't need any glasses. :D:D:D


Fyi the red one is the total of both games lol and yes everyone can clearly see the population of rs3 has declined hugely and steadily and will only get worse, which answers op's question and proves immortalized correct and you wrong. Oh well, sad day for you again.


Didn't you admit the brown line is the RS3 line? It is obviously holding on steadily. The uninterrupt decline comes from the middle one and hence drags down the total "population" line. Well, I don't even care to find out what game the middle line, the light blue one represents. Shrug! Bad for the middle blue nosediving game but it is not RS3 and hey not OP's concern perhaps? :D

28-Jul-2019 00:59:16 - Last edited on 28-Jul-2019 00:59:34 by Dilbert2001

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scousy said:
Both games have more players then the numbers currently online. You can't look only at the current online numbers ppl do have lives.


I have been saying the same things numerous times and nobody should care about concurrent players, not even if RS3's concurrent players nosedived 40-50% like in some other games.

28-Jul-2019 01:02:37

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xox Lola xox said:


do you like that lilly allen song air balloon?

It's like there is actually nobody left to quit rs3 isn't it.

Oh look there were 0 people playing rs3 in 2013 and now there is 25% less then 0. Woohoo lol.


Really not much changed on the brown line (RS3) since Oct 2018, while the big drop in total population obviously came from the light blue line.

In fact, you can even see the brown line ticking up since Apr 2019 while the blue line continuing to plummet at the same time. :D

28-Jul-2019 01:18:10

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xox Lola xox said:
And I think we all remember very well what you were spamming on every thread when osrs was at that high peak don't we dilbert. Changed your tune a bit hasn't one. Good luck with rs3 mobile lmfao@@@


Uh oh change the topic again?

Thank for showing us the graph (although it really doesn't show the real population). Now that everybody including your own friends should know RS3, although not really exploding in concurrent player count, is hardly declining much in that category... and in fact it is going back up since Apr 2019.

28-Jul-2019 01:24:43

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